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[v0.54.2]Babylon 5 - Sins of the Younger Races Remastered {Rebellion 1.95+} *UPDATE 16.05.2023*

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Reply #4226 August 12, 2013 1:50:06 AM
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nice new models

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Reply #4227 August 12, 2013 6:49:20 AM
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tobiwahn_kenobi there is a kickstarter for a 3d delta printer that appears to be very good value ie http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/blueeaglelabs/kossel-clear-lets-build-a-full-sized-delta-3d-prin

I am mentioning it as I remember you mentioned you were looking for one last year.

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Reply #4228 August 12, 2013 8:23:35 AM
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Quoting harpo99999,
reply 4227
tobiwahn_kenobi there is a kickstarter for a 3d delta printer that appears to be very good value ie http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/blueeaglelabs/kossel-clear-lets-build-a-full-sized-delta-3d-prin

I am mentioning it as I remember you mentioned you were looking for one last year.

harpo

Looks nice, though I'd still rather save up for a resin printer (and I had to invest in a replacement for my AV Receiver because its kaputt, so I have to save up again), as they are much more friendly to my lung

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Reply #4229 August 19, 2013 4:55:40 PM
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I'm about to take the last leg of my move. No idea when I'll be posting again, but I'm still slogging away on the EA tech update.

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Reply #4230 August 25, 2013 3:08:05 AM
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We'll hold down the for you all. TobiWahn, I can confirm that resin is much easier to work with in general. I'm familiar with the industrial scale ones at my workplace and they are very easy to maintain (though more expensive when something breaks).

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Reply #4231 August 26, 2013 4:23:30 PM
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Quoting boshimi336,
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We'll hold down the for you all. TobiWahn, I can confirm that resin is much easier to work with in general. I'm familiar with the industrial scale ones at my workplace and they are very easy to maintain (though more expensive when something breaks).

Yep. I really would like to have the Form1. If they would only lower the price of the resin and the printer a little...

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Reply #4232 September 1, 2013 12:51:36 AM
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Quoting TobiWahn_Kenobi,
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If they would only lower the price of the resin and the printer a little...

 

I can expect the printer costs to slowly drop down as much of the personal 3d printer market still does not use resin (though it's slowly shifting this way).

 

The resin itself I'm not so sure. There have been a few more suppliers crop up in the market place but they have more or less matched the market demand so the prices there are unfortunately fairly stable. [e digicons]:'([/e]

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Reply #4233 September 2, 2013 4:37:22 PM
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Quoting boshimi336,
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I can expect the printer costs to slowly drop down as much of the personal 3d printer market still does not use resin (though it's slowly shifting this way).



The resin itself I'm not so sure. There have been a few more suppliers crop up in the market place but they have more or less matched the market demand so the prices there are unfortunately fairly stable. [e digicons]:'([/e]

I think so too. It will take a few years for demand (and quality of the print) to reach a level where resin becomes cheap enough to print lots of stuff from it. I still prefer it to extrusion printing. I wish I'd own one, printing my own Babylon 5 3D models for tabletop play

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Reply #4234 September 2, 2013 4:39:57 PM
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Oh, and I'm currently working on the Corvan Scout. Geopard sent me a low poly model from another modeler who would have given it to us, but I wasn't satisfied with the model (it was fine then and for its intended purpose, but I feel we can do better for sins - hopefully, perhaps my creation is much worse ), so I'm redoing it from scratch.

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Reply #4235 September 5, 2013 9:32:36 PM
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I'm having problems running this mod on Diplomacy 1.37 (got it with Trinity), some of the ship models for the Earth Alliance are showing up either as black cubes or as vanilla Sins models.   The Delphi Scout is a black cube and the Asimov colony ship is a vanilla model. Help?

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Reply #4236 September 5, 2013 11:53:18 PM
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Means the mesh/model probably isn't in game yet or is missing.

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Reply #4237 September 7, 2013 3:39:38 PM
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Quoting Canitbedude123,
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I'm having problems running this mod on Diplomacy 1.37 (got it with Trinity), some of the ship models for the Earth Alliance are showing up either as black cubes or as vanilla Sins models.   The Delphi Scout is a black cube and the Asimov colony ship is a vanilla model. Help?

EternalRequiem is correct. The cubes (which in the next release will have faction colors) are place holders for missing models. SotRY is still in alpha build not yet having reached the 50% mark. The team is currently working on a Rebellion compliant upgrade but real life has priority so the going is slow.

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Reply #4238 September 7, 2013 3:51:09 PM
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Oh. I didn't know it was still an Alpha release. I kept thinking that I was installing the mod wrong.    

 

P.S I just started watching Babylon 5 via Netflix, I'm currently on Season 3 Disc 2. 

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Reply #4239 September 9, 2013 6:18:21 AM
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Thanks Darvroth. Yes, we have not even reached 0.5, so missing content is to be expected. As Darvroth said, real life has priority, but I'm working on yet another model (Corvan Scout), expected to be in the dev build the weekend after the oming one.

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Reply #4240 September 9, 2013 6:18:54 AM
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Quoting Canitbedude123,
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P.S I just started watching Babylon 5 via Netflix, I'm currently on Season 3 Disc 2.

3 is the best of them all (IMHO)

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Reply #4241 September 21, 2013 4:33:44 AM
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tobiwahn_kenobi, I have just found a kickstarter that sounds exactly like the sort of 3d printer you want ie http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/117421627/the-peachy-printer-the-first-100-3d-printer-and-sc?ref=live

harpo

 

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Reply #4242 September 29, 2013 2:18:17 PM
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New Horizons,

I'm still unpacking boxes but ran across this discussion point in the Sins of the Fallen Angels mod forum which you are moonlighting in. Could you adapt a similar approach to the asteroid colonization of the younger races? If asteroids were available earlier in the tech tree it would help with expansion especially for the Minbari and with the unimproved penalty would serve as an economic brake. Thoughts?

 

Quoting psychoak,
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Three reasons, pacing, the impact of bombing damage, and aesthetics.
Bombing down an unimproved Asteroid is largely a waste of time, you lose a minor little bit of income and an inexpensive upgrade, rapidly recolonize it, and the damage is swiftly made irrelevant. If you don't succeed in actually killing the planet you just bombed, you've done next to nothing.
Pacing, the early game worth of Asteroids is very, very high in vanilla Sins, they're far more valuable than much better planets that have to be researched. They have a very good Return On Investment, to balance this out a bit and make them less effective, they needed drawbacks.
So, they come with a negative and reduced initial incomes. Some have further negatives from planet bonuses of course, but the planets themselves can balance out and go positive easily enough. They are not a substantial cash supplier though. Later in the game, you get substantial population upgrades, the asteroids become more valuable, so as to not be irrelevant monetarily. Your initial expansion is primarily funded by your home world until you do civilian research. This reduces the viability of an all military strategy where you just colonize asteroids.
There's also the practicality of an asteroid colony not having major costs to maintain. A minor factor, but one supported by game designs. The negative income modifiers represent the cost of maintaining an undeveloped outpost. A thriving economy will supply it's own goods and services, a simple military installation will require supplies for everything. A domed city on a lifeless asteroid requires significant exterior supplies to maintain it's existence, civil population or not. All of the planets that maintain negative modifiers are harsh environments, lacking in natural resources in a way that would require a great deal of supplies, or more complicated means of compensation, such as the need to import most of your food supply in a harsh desert climate, with extreme water recycling measures needed to keep the plumbing operational without additional off world input.
Some planets are just bad, you have to really want that Toxic. It's a nasty place to colonize. It's a good point of defense, it has nice resources you need, you can terraform it, you can afford to wait for it to pay itself off with trade ports later, etcetera.

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Reply #4243 September 29, 2013 4:08:12 PM
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Hi guys,

Have had lots of work to do lately. I'm now finishing the Corvan Scout (this week), then on to the next model. I'm not sure how much time Darvroth had, but I suspect we will hear from him shortly. All in all, summer is out and work has to resume.

cheers
Tobias

ps.: Thanks for the printer link, read about it too. I like it, though I would rather have the Pro option. And that costs lots more (but still cheap). 2014 will be interesting!

 

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Reply #4244 September 29, 2013 4:23:17 PM
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Quoting Darvroth,
reply 4242
If asteroids were available earlier in the tech tree it would help with expansion especially for the Minbari and with the unimproved penalty would serve as an economic brake. Thoughts?
Balancing SotYR's races is always a challenge. The younger (weaker but adaptable) races, like EA, Narn, should probably have early access to all planet types. At most they would require tier 1 or 2 techs.

It would be nice if the Centauri ships had a bit of a buff (so that they were superior to early/mid level EA & Narn) but were then hindered a little by requiring a few colonization techs, say tier 1 to 3 for the more hostile environments - I couldn't see Centauri Nobility wanting to scratch out a living on volcanic or ice worlds.

Minbari do seem to need some help in expanding, so allowing them to colonize asteroids early on sounds like a sensible step. I'd keep the ice colonization tech a tier 1, but maybe move Star Bourne down from tier-3 to 2. I'd leave the colonization of volcanics where it is.

Just a reminder - all DLC planets can be colonized with out research at the moment.

Quoting Darvroth,
reply 4242
I'm still unpacking boxes
You'll probably be doing that for while yet. Now where did I put that ...?

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Reply #4245 October 1, 2013 1:17:19 PM
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Quoting NewHorizons,
reply 4244

Quoting Darvroth, reply 4242If asteroids were available earlier in the tech tree it would help with expansion especially for the Minbari and with the unimproved penalty would serve as an economic brake. Thoughts?Balancing SotYR's races is always a challenge. The younger (weaker but adaptable) races, like EA, Narn, should probably have early access to all planet types. At most they would require tier 1 or 2 techs.

It would be nice if the Centauri ships had a bit of a buff (so that they were superior to early/mid level EA & Narn) but were then hindered a little by requiring a few colonization techs, say tier 1 to 3 for the more hostile environments - I couldn't see Centauri Nobility wanting to scratch out a living on volcanic or ice worlds.

Minbari do seem to need some help in expanding, so allowing them to colonize asteroids early on sounds like a sensible step. I'd keep the ice colonization tech a tier 1, but maybe move Star Bourne down from tier-3 to 2. I'd leave the colonization of volcanics where it is.

Just a reminder - all DLC planets can be colonized with out research at the moment.

Quoting Darvroth, reply 4242I'm still unpacking boxesYou'll probably be doing that for while yet. Now where did I put that ...?

Adjusting tech tier placement is easy enough but can only be accomplished if the planet development for that race is adjustable such that the colonization penalty for asteroids can be set for each race as a mechanism to retard fleet development but not necessarily colonialization which is necessary for resource gathering. Later techs in the tech tree can further reduce the (under)-development penalty by which point the empires are more or less established. Thoughts?

At the current rate I have several more weeks of unpacking before reaching some sort of equilibrium. For now it is a victory to shrink the stacks of boxes by a vertical column as they are stacked 3-4 high...

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Reply #4246 October 1, 2013 4:28:09 PM
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Quoting Darvroth,
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colonization penalty for asteroids can be set for each race as a mechanism to retard fleet development but not necessarily colonialization which is necessary for resource gathering

Only way I see this working is via techs screwing with population counts, and sending them into the negatives if possible.

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Reply #4247 October 1, 2013 7:22:11 PM
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Quoting Darvroth,
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At the current rate I have several more weeks of unpacking before reaching some sort of equilibrium. For now it is a victory to shrink the stacks of boxes by a vertical column as they are stacked 3-4 high...

hehe, that's always a PITA. HEre for your enjoyment:

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Reply #4248 October 2, 2013 3:07:58 AM
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подскажите мне этот мод вообще планируется на восстание, а то очень хочется увидеть его там, да и обновления не выходило давно......

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Reply #4249 October 2, 2013 3:34:01 AM
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Quoting pasmach,
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подскажите мне этот мод вообще планируется на восстание, а то очень хочется увидеть его там, да и обновления не выходило давно......

please refrain from posting in a language other than English on my forums. This thread is for everyone to read, so we need to adhere to the lowest common denominator. I do not post in my mother tongue as well.

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Reply #4250 October 2, 2013 5:56:43 AM
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tell me this mod at all planned to revolt, and that really want to see him there, and the renovation did not go for a long time ......

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