Thats the thing the Star Trek mod for this game done it they all start in the right place, i will look into it tho.

Fixed the HyperSpace Problem thats what i get for copy and pasting the name and not watching what i'm doing and for the Nochfal if you look at the pirate base there its spelt right lol my bad again. I did use that map btw if your talking about the minbari Homworld i put it in that place so thay wouldnt meet earth too fast.

The Narns are in the right place just the races on the map to the left of narn would have been too much i had to miss out a lot to cut it down a little. And i placed the narns first then seen the map would have took me ages to move all the stars

Honestly, no. We sometimes just guessed values. I am in the unfortunate position not to be able to playtest at all (except 10 minutes or so)

Well, we need to make them competetive at the late game. Question - have you used Poseidon carriers with lvl 10 and 24 squads? How do they work out? I always was afraid they might be too strong in the end.

Ammasing Myrmidons or Tethys should be quite devestating. (but now overwhelmingly so)

Balancing is really needed. But I always wanted that to be priority come 0.5 (alpha phase)

TobiWahn,

The EA starbase refueling station works well but the EA AM refueling stations do need tweaking. The Hermes also needs some tweaking, it is a priority target for the AI, quickly bleeds down its AM reserve and takes forever to refill. Additionally it is prone to blindly charge targets if not closely managed. It seems to have a special affinity for enemy star bases so I'm wondering if there is something in the entity file responsible for this behavior?

I've found the EA can not survive without several near maxed star bases, from these fleet strength can be marshaled. The EA early to mid game can not survive Minbari (and presumably Old Ones) fleet engagements without numbers and numbers are hard to get to and keep given ship resource costs and tech limitations. I know balancing is later but it will be an incremental process.

Darvroth

^This is an interesting idea, not sure if it would work with the Canon of the B5 universe but cool none the less.

Well said. But I do not want to sacrifice canon for fun, just for balance

The Idea should be that Minbari have a hard time getting fleet numbers up as they take longer to build and are more expensive while EA is cheaper and faster. The others are in between the two. The Vorlons and Shadows need their own limitation

P.S.: Thanks for filling the origo issues section, I will take a look at them as soon as my day to day work permits (perhaps today evening)

Well, in the serie, vorlon have plenty of ship, a huge fleet... a sleeping fleet since they have not enough crew for all of them...

Don't know if it is possible to have lower crew/capitalship point for one race only... and/or make the crew/amount of capitalship research very expensive...

Well, it is the problem with any old races... they are few and don't reproduce like the "rabbit"... i mean the "human"

Yes it is. But with the high supply costs of Vorlon capitalships they won't be able to have a hugh capship fleet anyways.

Thats where I want to go too, let the old ones have a hard time expanding.

Proposal for shadows: frigates and capitalships can colonise

frigate: 10 percent chance of colonise succeeding, ship destroyed upon use of the ability

Battlecrab: 50 / 75 / 99 percent chance of succeeding, ships destroyed upon use of ability. No autocast

For Vorlon I propose that they will always succeed with calonise but take very very long time to colonise a planet. Can be interrupted and ship can do nothing else while colonising.

Screenshot?

Here we go tobi, I literally just changed the colour. I've got a week off before I have shifts at teh hospital again, so I'll see if I can have a mess around. I just finished a load of modding I was doing for the project reality BF2 mod, so I'll have a peek and see if I can learn Sins a bit for simple modding (don't expect much, I've been modding BF2 for years, but never really got into the Sins system, but if I can do anything I'll have a go.)

TobiWahn,

Still scrubbing EA and Narn, now looking at Centari...busy refining earlier observations to be more useful. I acknowledge the techs and entity files where a bit rushed (with months of effort) to get the wonderful 0.43 out when you did and it represents a major improvement. I further acknowledge the B5 history and naming convention challenges binning ships properly within the SoASE construct. The mod is a pre-Alpha, many elements are not present and balancing is a distant dream. I also acknowledge you as mod leader have the final decision on many elements as they are developed and inserted. That said and based on previous conversations with you and Rod I've made several observations and seek clarification. Please don't take offense.

The tech trees assembled thus far are a wonderful work in progress and the chronological binning done by you and Rod are staggeringly brilliant. I also note there are linkages and dummy techs to force the AI to research that will be refined over time. Some of the linkages are convoluted, difficult to follow and challenge the early game for some races. I've already noted some of the more egregious early game ones. That said, I hope to foster dialog on several related topics.

1) The binning of ships into frigate, cruiser and captital ship assigned the various mission roles from SoASE to me aside from a basic chronological progression have no discernable rhyme or reason. With some obvious exceptions please assist me to understand and inform the players what are the basic attributes of each ship class. This could include any of the following: hull and defense grid (shield) health, speed, number and type of weapon mounts, acceleration/deceleration and turning speeds, armor, fighter squadrons, rates of weapon fire, weapon arcs and range, amount of antimatter, etc. Basically what makes a frigate a frigate and a cruiser a cruiser, basic left and right bounds?

2) The ship weapons are somewhat race specific and also somewhat chronological. Early game weapons are: autocannon, pulse cannon, missiles, lasers (of various flavors) and plasma cannon. Mid-game weapon progression mostly consists of improvements and refinements but also includes some new, (Centari ion cannon) and cross race tech transfers. Late game gets a bit more exotic and harder to bin, and the Minbari, Vorlon and Shadow start off with what are late game weapons for the other races. All that said how is weapon damage using the basic elements of damage/shot, rate of fire and range used to determine what is appropriate for a given class of ship. Each characteristic will improve over time so strict damage, weapon type and number of mounts as shown on the ship card does not provide a good measure of offensive power, or does it? A buyers guide would be helpful as it is very different from SoASE base game and will help inform balance decisions.

3) I was under the impression the shield mechanic from SoASE for lack of a better option would be a stand in for defensive technologies. The shield strength and recharge rate are a good substitute for example the EA defense grids and the shield mitigation was an acceptable substitute for the evolving ECM/ECCM effects. This is especially true as SoASE does not have a chance to hit function. Many ships now included still have robust shields which runs counter to the armor/hull centric approach discussed earlier. Realizing the "shield" ship characteristic will improve over time and is race and ship function dependent. What is a good guide for good defense, adequate defense and crappy defense?

I know there is some sensitivity to the above and can take your response in PM or e-mail if it is not yet time for public disclosure. Only trying to help.

Darvroth

Not entirely true on the part of the Minbari. They can't be targeted by the computer, but you can still aim the weapons manually. Obviously with the distances those fights occur in and the speeds at which Minbari ships can travel, it makes it very hard to hit them manually, but not impossible.

Also we only know for sure that the sensors the EA used before it was upgraded in GROPOS can't penetrate the Minbari stealth technology. It was never mentioned how well the other races, or even the upgraded sensors work against the stealth.

I'm also not sure wether the Victory should even be available to the EA. It was after all build by and for the ISA and the Excalibur was only borrowed to the EA to find a cure for the Drakh plague, but it was still ISA property.