-Anyone else excited about this game? As someone who spent way too much time with the bauldars gate games back in the day, to see them come out with a "spiritual" successor is pretty exciting. I'm interested in the whole "playing through your characters origin story" as a game mechanic. I hope the game has deep character development, and isn't just focused on the story...though the story does look impressive. I'm a big fan of other BioWare games like the Kotor games, but again, those were more focused on the story than character development.
Excited.
Excited +1
Will it be available on IMPULSE?
I hope its on impluse!
Me too.
Though unfortunately EA games seem to be on STEAM
I wish I could've bought Red Alert 3 through IMPULSE.... but anything can change until October.... right Stardock
Been waiting for this one for a long time. Eagerly anticipating
DA:O has probably the widest margin of must-buyness to excitement in the history of all my gaming. In other words, I've had this on my radar forever and have been involved with BioWare since at least BG but I've never been so unexcited about a Bio release. At any given time when they give out new info they seem to cancel it out by wacky marketing. Doesn't matter, as it's been a will-have since before it was announced, but they sure know how to unhype a game. Gah.
I've actually gotten a little more excited about Alpha Protocol than DA:O in recent months, which is weird because DA:O is by far more my style of game.
Excited, but cautious. (given EA's involvement)
I'm actually kind of wary. Those horrible HORRIBLE trailers don't help the situation.
Actually, after the first trailer (which was terrible, I agree), I've enjoyed the video for the game.
I love BW but hate the EA overlord! I have been waiting for this title for some time nonetheless.
Bioware is trustworthy... I think EA is smart enough to know that keeping them free to do their thing brings even more money..
Not yet sure if i'm getting it for my PC or my 360 though
I am also looking forward to this game. I plan to buy it regardless of DRM. However, if I don't like the DRM it does have, I will hunt down a torrent of it to avoid the DRM and leave my retail disk in the box.
Also, anyone else read the prequel novel? I found it very interesting and it left me wanting to know more about the Dragon Age world.
Bioware hasn't been healthy since EA took over.
I'm looking forward to Dragon Age, but it's by far the most "Whatever" in the history of Bioware. If it fails, I won't even be phased. If it's a great success, then it's "Yay" and a golfclap.
That said, I don't think it'll actually fail. All I'm saying is that.. well.. whatever.
Well, it IS EA, I would have thought they'd be smart enough to keep Westwood, Origin, Bullfrog, ... free to do their thing...
No doubt hence my concern. EA has a 100% track record of a scorched earth policy with its takeovers.
They didn't do it to Mythic. They were completely hands off with Mythic, and let them do their thing, even giving them more time through several lengthy delays to "get it right". In retrospect, maybe they should have been more hands on.
Bioware is still very much intact and soverign at EA. They actually just got put in charge of the new MMO unit (and Mythic was decapitated and now under Bioware's supervision.)
The moral is, they will continue to be Bioware, at least until they stop delivering.
Very excited about Dragon Age. All my friends that have played it at cons say it's great. You want it on the PC though, not on console. It comes with a robust set of Mod tools for making custom adventures, and you'll miss a lot of the mod action on a console.
Oh yeah, also, consoles suck.
I think I know where you are coming from. I'm cautiously excited. All depends on the DRM.
Bioware has said that the only DRM on the Box Dragon Age game will be the traditional simple disk check. No activations or anything.
Things have changed suddenly prior to release before. Bioware changed it's mind on a number of things soon after becoming part of EA. (ex: PC only -> console version later -> delay PC version for simultanious release with console)
Also, EA seems quite happy claiming that C&C 4 will have no DRM. It will just require a constant internet connection even for single-player. This is not DRM in any way, of course, you just have to be constantly logged into your authorised account. For your own convenience, of course. Perhaps they are planning similar "no-DRM"?
For this and similar reasons, I just feel it would be better to adopt a wait and see policy till sometime after release.
Additionally, They are using a special developed "disk check" software [Already said not made by Sony] for the game. WTF? Why are they using third party disk check software in the first place? Simple disk was built in titles before. Something does not seem right to be honest.
Lets be honest. There's nothing Bioware could do , short of giving us the game for free on the back of a magical pink pony, that would keep us from complaining about it because "EA is Evil", and it's easier to regurgitate bumper sticker mentality as a shortcut to actual thought, than meet developers halfway over the realties they must face. I'm perfectly happy to take a return to late 90's era DRM by a major publisher, as a win compared to many of the modern alternatives. If it bothers you, buy it on Steam, which wont have disk check DRM. It will simply have *steam* drm.
Virtually every major AAA retail version game in the last 15+ years has had a third party disk check. Because third parties make the software that check the disks, while game developers focus on making games. You dont actually think that Safedisk, Securom, and Tages, etc. came out in the last few years, do you?
[edited for too much snark, apologies]
Quite frankly, I find the ad hoc "EA is the Devil!" stuff a little tiresome. Look at all the crap Activision and Ubisoft have been pulling the last while without anyone uttering a word of complaint, yet if EA tried some of the same stuff there'd practically be geek riots. The hypocrisy of it is rather annoying.
@Bingjack - Let's be honest, argumentum ad personam and moralistic fallacy; - nice. +1 troll for the win!
Besides it is sure good to know that you know what I know or dare I say don't know. I will sleep much better at night now.
As far as your comment to "meeting them halfway", I'm perfectly willing to do so. That is what a serial number is for and I'll even toss in the online authentication to boot - one time only per install of course. Hell I'll even agree to tying an email account or two to said game serial numbers in trade for digital access to the title perpetually so I can save ware and tear on my disks.
DRM is PURE EVIL no matter how you try to spin it. It ONLY hurts legitimate customers. Moreover it undercuts the right of "First Sale" doctrine and can cause other damages to hardware and systems. Then of course there is the issue of long term support or for most of these 'big boys' any support - especially free support for customers but of course you knew that since you know what I know, so your post must surely have been purely a bumper sticker troll post [see first statement for reward].
BTW: On a related note concerning Mythic, I'm under the impression (and it could be very wrong) that plans were pretty much the same but other factors crept into the equation - maybe the BW purchase - I don’t know. Moreover I can also vaguely recollect reading somewhere that several key people were removed and some other simply moved on for whatever reasons. To me the end result is still the same - gutted...
@Crassmaster - I agree and slam them all equally for their DRM antics. I assume the reason it appears EA gets hammered so much is because its president categorically called gamers[PC] stupid and/or thieves. A nice opinion of one's customers - yes? Needlessly to say it did not go over well with the public at large.
Additionally when they have do good stuff for gamers I promoted them as well. The most recent example I can give you was when PoP [Ubi] was released without DRM. I ask several gamer news contacts I have to report on it and most did.
Only reason I hate EA is because of what they did to Spore.
Well, as long as you're "under the impression", and can "Vaguely recollect", it must be true, right?
Sorry, no. EA didnt touch Mythic, and they got to do exactly what they wanted...for *as along* as they wanted, until their game faileld to perform up to expectations when it was *eventually* released after multiple delays, and short previously announced content.
Shortly after which, some failed projections taken into account, Mark Jacobs "parted ways" with the company, and Mythic was put under the supervision of a proven developer.
You know...Bioware.
I know...Big companies suck...Blah blah blah...EA is evil...blah blah...a short cut to an actual appraisal of the situation...which is:
Bioware is one of the most Blue chip developers of western RPGs that there is. Bar none. Bioware has never done anything, but try to make gamers happy. Their leadership, who oversaw many of the games we love, remains intact, and has even been granted supervisory capacity over other development entities in the company.
Bioware has *always* been honest with its fans and community. I regret the financial realities that led Bioware away from being a company that made games and licorice rainbows for free, for everyone, but there you go...such is the world. In the meantime, I delude myself in taking solace that the Bioware leadership is entirely intact, and even given more power in the company, like overseeing the Warhammer MMO, which might even benefit.
Bioware is preparing to release a game that is considered the spititual succesor to Baldur's Gate 2 (which a paltry few people hold in high regard), designed around PC play, and not simply a console game ported to the PC, like Mass Effect. This time around, the consoles get the "port". Again, I regret the financial realities that make consoles such a lucrative game market...but what are you gonna do...apparently other people besides you *also* buy games.
And EA...OMG EA...theyre so "evil"...you know, because they are succesful and own everything. Always forcing their "evil" DRM on us. US...I mean the PC consumers that steal everything not bolted down, as opposed to the Console market where they not only make more money, but have vastly lower incidents of theft. How dare they not defy simple logic.
Except wait...apparently, in response to (completely jusitifietd) *consumer frustration* with increasingly draconian DRM on their products, theyve made the majority of their PC versions of current products availiable to the public with a far more benign (Securom-less) DRM model (Steam) that many, MANY people find preferable. No disk check even. But no...we can't acknowledge this, because EA IS EVIL (stop thinking now.)
Not to mention allowing Bioware to promise their consumers, that the box retail copy (remember when people used to buy PC games at stores?) be availiable with a simple disk check. You know, the token protection model that games have used for more than a decade, long before this whole debate ever started up, and before the more draconain schemes started in on us. HOW DARE THEY.
/snark off.
Seriously, Im sorry about this. You got my snark answer, because you accused me of trolling, when I thought of it as adults having a serious adult conversation with other adults. *Children* think of things in cartoonish shades of black and white, and use terms like "evil" to describe fairly obvious and predictable capitalistic behavior.
Bioware has never done anything...anything... to deserve the kind of advance derision some people are heaping on their efforts here. Their game might suck... it's entirely within the realm of mathematic possibility....but its not something that the odds favor. They're making a tactical squad based RPG...how 1) Jaded, or 2) Ignorant do you have to be not to be excited by that prosepect?
And if youre of the opinion that EA is behind the scenes pulling strings with sinister machinations, I gotta tell you, as far as Evil Empires go, they havn't been all that evil. Theyve made predictable mistakes , in a frontier market with evolving realities, and tried to offer alternatives. Their earlier efforts were offensive, they failed the consumer base, and I would not purchase those efforts.
But if they offer subsequent efforts with protections on the level of games released in the 90's , before every kiddie on the net new how to torrent, and had succeeded in playing a very real role in driving games off the pc platform, and if you still have nothing better to do than mount an agenda of "Gee, shucks...I dunno...EA..."...
...Then the problem is you, not them.
You know what Stardock is doing right now? Stardock, who has been such a shing beacon of consumer advocacy in the age of bittorrent? Theyre perfecting DRM. And it's much more involved than a simple disk check.
We must be willing to meet companies, and the realities that they face halfway. Games with limited online activations required, out of the box? Sure, unacceptable. Great sounding games with a protection no different that a game I bought in 1998? We reject that at our own peril.
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