Well it looks like Yahoo and Microsoft has got together to take on Google.
http://choicevalueinnovation.com/thedeal/pressroom/Default.aspx
As I understand it, its a 10 year deal where Yahoo will use Bing for its search engine and Yahoo will get 88% for the advertising.
With Microsoft track record I wonder if its a smart move by Yahoo?
Fortunately, I never had those to begin with... so hopefully, then, what they do suck up will end up f**king them up.
Okay, looks like I took a looker nap than usual, just call be Rip Van Winkel, but can someone explain the importantance of this?
I use IE8, yeah I know, and up in the upper right hand corner where you search there is an opition to find other search platforms. You can search using Live Search, Google, Yahoo, etc. So what am I missing. Do I need to only use one search platform to be 'Political Correct'?
I'm not try to make fun of anyone, I really want to know.
I've been using the Bing vs. Google plugin for FF. It gives you results from both in side by side split screen. Pretty handy and also good for making your own judgments of which you prefer after a while, being able to compare them so closely.
Wasn't there also a site that did that for Yahoo vs Google a while back?
How does Microsoft SilverLight play in all of this?
I'm pretty sure Silverlight is a Flash competitor.
Stardock does a fair amount of advertisements here on WC. Does that make them bad?
That's exactly what I do. Matter of fact I remove Google from search options in Firefox. I'd rather use Bing - better the devil you know, eh?
Speaking of Silverlight - ever been to the downloads page at Microsoft.com? Huge install button on the popup; need a magnifying glass for the "no thanks" click.
Dang! I need to turn off my TV, stop listening to the radio, stop reading newspapers, magazines and close my eyes while driving and just go live in a freakin cave. That way I'll be safe from the evil advertising gremlins that suck my brains out and force me to buy things at gunpoint....
(For the slow witted: the preceding comments are meant in HUMOR and do not necessarily reflect the views of anyone living or decesed, nor anyone thinking of being living or deceased. We now return you to your regularly scheduled forum...)
Phonn, what's your point?
Ahhh, what kind of wine is that?
Another funny point: Hotmail does everything that Google does...
All this "google stole my secrets" bullshit honestly makes me sick.
Sounds so stupid to me.
I probably wouldn't have used BS, but the majority of us here are just home computers users. Yes, there are some folks here that do earn their living using their computers.
What 'secrets' do most of us have on our computers that are being gathered, your financial information. If you do any buying on line it all ready is available. Identily theft, sure it happens.
Most of what people fear can be prevented by practicing smart surfing habits. But even if you do that it's not going to stop everyone. If you get targeted by someone there isn't much you will be able to do. Yes I know we are talking about the different browsers out there and what they may be tracking, keeping and probably selling. No difference if you have a store card and use it.
I don't hold myself out as an expect, I'm just a home computer user that does some on line shopping, and most of the time I lie on line, so I don't much care.
I hate to say it but advertising is here to stay on the net. With large revenue in a growth industry, expect the major players to find more ways to push it onto our screens. Just think it as free TV, you get a service for free, while they make a (huge?) income. This is something Google is good at.Yahoo and Microsoft agreement is important because it creates greater competition in this market. The two groups will come out swinging at each other and hopefully create bigger and better services for us to use.I for one don't want anyone to 'win' any monopoly just tends to hurt us, the user.
Whether it sounds stupid or not is besides the point. They DO gather information, if not quite as much as people make out. For example, if you register for gmail, you get different kinds of ads based on the subject of your e-mails.
Well, luckily I can say I really don't care, cause I don't put in the web anything I'm not ok about "data gathering".
It's like phone tapping: you know there's a chance, but you don't care too much if you're not a drug dealer, a mafia mademan or something.
And if you are, well.... you can at least try to be smart enough to not talk about that kind of stuff on phone.
They'd shoot you in the back while competing for everyone else's attention; multi-internationals corps stop at nothing to pile up bullets anyway.
You could be next. As long as you have money to spend, the purchasing decision still isn't yours to take but theirs to invoque by slamming the hammers of hypnosis right through your brain.
Freemarket? To whom advantage(s), may i ask?
Costs markup, ever heard of that.
It's soooo silly, it has become pathetic & idiotic.
We're all buying advertisements, not being lured by it.
Thing is...Google had some bullshit ethos along the lines of 'do no harm' ....attempting to pass themselves off as God's gift to the Internet user....when all they were was money-centric data-miners who couldn't even show half a backbone and say 'NO' to the Chinese when asked to 'alter' the truth.
The FACT they agreed to alter reality brings into question every and ALL information searches, as does the commercial-based prejudicial and preferential treatment given to some.
If, however they were up front about it...and said 'we are in it primarily for the money...and as such will alter one's search results to suit our pockets' then all would be rosy.
But that was/is not the case.
it's 'Don't be evil' Jafo.
... pigs ass
I was close...
There is a BIG difference here, kona. Stardock does NOT data mine or collect personal imformation to target you with advertising... Google DOES. Yes, we submit personal information to Stardock, but that is for the purpose of creating a customer account and profile for our purchases and on'line activities, etc. However, Stardock does NOT use that information to target its customers or members with specific ads.... Google DOES.
Of course they gather/store personal information... but how much is a matter for debate. For example, if you were to do a google search on yourself, the search results would return only what is mostly 'publicly' available information... yet you know that they have much more on you because the targetted ads are based on non-public information... often times information you have not divulged openly, just to a friend or relative via email, etc.
That is why I am so opposed to google-analytics being present at every page load on every site you visit... it allows Google to collect data on where you go and what you look at via your IP address... and that, to me, is just as bad, if not worse, than covertly and illegally tapping phone lines to monitor peoples purchasing and other habits. Use Google's 'phone home' browser and OS and you're opening the door the even greater Google scrutiny of your personal preferences/habits, etc.
Yup, which is why I detest advertising execs so much. They get ridiculously huge fat salaries for words and images that anyone with a bit of creativity could come up with, then they charge goods and services providers an arm and a leg to force annoying ads down our throats. The result of all this... the providers pass these costs on so that we the consumer ulimately pays more for our goods and services.
It's also the reason why the gap between the haves and have nots is getting wider... why more and more people (middle class included) are finding themselves on or just below the poverty line. While executive salaries keep pace with inflation and rising costs, the average joe's does not, thus putting more and more out of his reach as prices continue to rise. I blame advertising for this... and company execs... and bankers.... AND Google!!!
Hey, I say that a lot, and I'm no dickhead, nor am I socially inept........
Jafo - Microsoft and Hotmail are every bit as bad with data mining as Google. Face the truth.
No! Truth is, MS data mines to provide you with updates and sell you MS stuff... whereas Google data mines for advertising puposes and to sell you all sorts of crap... most of which you neither want or need. Yup, I remember when my niece was using Google's email service and she frequently got spam for penis enlargement devices/methods... yeah, right!
Like she needed a penis enlargement... not unless Google had collected personal data on her hubby and was trying to tell her something.
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