The 2012 movie is coming out soon and I think it might be a good movie (in my opinion of course). I'm a fan of giant explosions and disaster movies. As I watched the trailer, the same question pops up: is the world going to end?
Of course by now everyone has heard of 2012. Mayans predict it, Nostradamus predicts it. And so many other sources of doomsday predictions like the Book of Revelations say the end is nigh. I'm sure everyone has commented on it on one post or another, and everyone has their own opinion on when, how, and if our world, as well as our existence, will end. So I just want to know exactly your opinion on armageddon: the end of teh world.
In my opinion 2012 is possible, but very unlikely. no one can know for sure. However, i guarantee you one way or the other, Earth will be destroyed, wether it be by an expanding and exploding sun, or a 200-mile wide asteroid slamming into the planet. Even the very unlikely possibility that a black hole wanders into our system or a gamma ray burst from a quazar or pulsar just so happened to point in our direction. Earth will disappear, but humanity doesn't. One day Humanity will face a danger, either by the Yellowstone SuperVolcano, a meteor, or the final World War, that will test our ability to survive against insurmountable odds. If we are able to stop or survive a major catastrophe, then that proves that we are ready to face any danger the universe has to throw at us. And yes, we can probably survive a zombie apocalypse
Soo...what do you think?
Note: This kinda has to do with Sins because the Invasion of both the Vasari and Advent will prove wether humanity can fight an alien threat on two fronts.
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anyone notice that its not just the earth thats warming up.....everything from mars to pluto is warmer then they should be. I heard that some scientists shot some lasers or something at pluto (probably wrong on how they did it) but they discovered even though pluto is farther from the sun then ever. It was 10 degrees warmer then its supposed to be. As well out of no wheres One of the eyes on Jupiter (which has been around for hundreds of years) just up and disappeared. The same has happened to a number of lines on Jupiter. As well Mars is substantlally warmer then it should be as well. So Not ALL of the Global Warming is due to humans, albiet we arent helping, we arent the sole source. if i remember correctly (definitely have to find the article on this that i read) its Star dust thats seeping into the solar system because somehow the protective "forcefield" created by the sun has some holes in it for some reason. Honestly I have no clue how the Sun keeps shit like stardust (whatever that is) out so honestly im at a loss for words as to really figure out how it will effect us. The article did mention that the supposed peak of this stardust would fall in 2012...............
I suggest researching the responses from a scientific perspective such as NASA. In fact, if you Google '2012 site:nasa.gov' you'll find plenty of good responses and information.
One resource in particular is full of information - their Astrobiology section on Nibiru and Doomsday 2012: Questions and Answers.
It discusses, as the title suggests, the common misperceptions about Nibiru and the (theoretical) end of the Mayan calendar.
Yep, from what I've heard, it's the whole solar system that's warming up. 2 possible explanations :
- Solar cycle at its peak...but not likely
- Red dwarf passing by (Nibiru anyone ?)...but then again, not likely.
Oh well, we'll know soon enough anyway I guess.
Well, if the whole system is warming, then its the sun. It can't be a nearby passing star because I haven't noticed any extra giant flaming balls of fire on the sky lately.
And of course, if another star came that close to our system we'd have bigger issues to worry about, like being rammed by Jupiter or something like that.
No, I haven't really noticed... but its been awhile since i visited the martian surface...
Of course you wouldn't see it, as you would need 1/ to be in a good spot (south pole) and 2/ to have the appropriate telescope (infrared telescope for example).
With this equipement, you might just be able to see a red dwarf in the vicinity of the solar system but hell, nobody has pictures yet, go figure.
And I would be more troubled by the possibility of the EMF dropping or being modified due to the proximity of an astral body where there shouldn't be one more than being hit by jupiter
Errr... no. A red dwarf is a star. you don't need an infrared telescope to see it, because it emits its own light. Furthermore, red dwarfs are relatively cool stars, definitely cooler than our own sun. Thus, for the thermal effects to be noticeable, the new star would have to be very close to our system - so close in fact that you would clearly be able to see it in daylight with the naked eye.
A brown dwarf, a gas giant so big its on the verge of nuclear fusion, but not quite, is a relatively large astral body which does not emit visible light, only infrared. It is still much smaller than our Sun.
Also, it is geometrically impossible that an astral object can be seen only from the South Pole. Earth is a sphere, if you can see something from the South Pole, you can see it from the entire Southern Hemisphere.
To continue, the Earth's magnetic field cannot be modified or "dropped" by the proximity of a large astral body. The magnetic field is caused by the dynamo effect - circulating electric currents within the molten iron core of the planet. To disrupt this effect, Earth's rotation would need to be slowed down or stopped.
If something actually managed to expend that much energy on the planet, we would all be very much dead long before the magnetic field dissipated.
Simple proximity of a large astral body, however, is not enough to do something like that. A star passing through the Solar system would, however, seriously knock all planets about, hence my joke about being rammed by Jupiter. But as I said, there is no such star in the vicinity of the Solar system. The whole Nibiru, Planet X thing is a hoax, nothing more.
Ima have to agree with the idea that the sun is causing the climate change (more so then humans, not that we dont attribute to it). The whole Earths getting warmer thing has been attributed by scientists to the peak in Earths constant cycle of extreme warm and cold climates. We surely cant recieve blame for the heat that was present during the time of the Dinosaurs or the Ice Ages that came about numerous times. I do think if Humans continue down this path we will attribute to the toxification of the Earth and in the end keep it from continuing life even long after we're gone. But I also think its quite arrogant of mankind to assume we have complete power over the Earth and the life on it at this time in Earths history. So much so that we can either save species or kill them off. While we do contribute heavily to the extinction of many creatures. Earth has been around for along time and before we were around other creatures were causing the extinction of other species. This is just how nature works, and helps life continue to advance and adapt to changing enviroments.
I was recently watching a special on the Discovery Channel about what was known as the Extinction Era (if i remember the name correctly) in Earths history. 200,000 years of constant extinction. Everything from water to the air to the plants were toxic and species left and right died off. But in the end life bounced back. Atleast this is my interpretation of what the show was all about.
There is another show that shows how animals would bounce back if we as Humans were to die off and the Earth would just continue on with its cycles.
The reality is while Science can explain many things and Earths history. But the Earth has had so many run ins with things that should have turned the earth into a desolate waste land that it defies Sciences ability to explain things.
Now Im not saying theres some mysterious sentient being that we cant fathome or see thats influencing this. But I am saying if something is watching over the universe. Earth has its favor when it comes to surviving.
Scientists can chop it up to luck or whatever else. But a meteor smashing into the Earth and killing everything but a few mammals is just alittle farfetched for me. While I believe a meteor did smash into the Earth and that the effects of this meteor meets logic. What doesnt meet logic is how for months or even years these small mammals found food with no food around. The explaination for how so many dinosaurs died off initially from the blast was that not just was there a fireball that engulfed the Earth but a large wave of blistering hot air engulfed the world just seconds or even minutes before the fireball. Which would make it almost impossible for any creature or even plant to survive. With plants burned from the face of the Earth the oxygen levels would have dropped far below living conditions. As well just after the fireball would have been an enormous Tsunami that would have covered atleast 1/3rd of the Earths landmass. Also long after that, any plant that survived would have died off without sufficient nuturients from the Earth and the Sun. The Earth SHOULD have become a desolate wasteland much like Mars. But for some reason life survived and continued to thrive.
Its my belief that even long after Humans are gone. The Earth will continue to produce life and will far into the future. Only ending when the Sun begins to die and expands engulfing planets and turning the earth into a scortched sphere.
I believe there were so far three Extinction Events in Earth's past. I think one of them pretty much wiped out 95% of all life on the planet. And yet, as you say, life bounced back. I would however, attribute that more to the incredible resilience of life itself, than to being favoured by something or someone.
As for the asteroid impact, there are many shows on Discovery, and some tend to be a little... flamoyant. As far as I know, the Extinction Event caused by the asteroid impact was not something which happened overnight. It was a rather long process in fact... paleonthologists can confirm that as they know that not all dinosaurs died off at the same time. In different part of the world the extinction happened at different rate.
What probably happened (because no one knows for sure and its all speculation) is that the impact threw up so much fine dust into the atmosphere that it crated an aerosol layer which blocked out a large percentage of Sun's radiation from reaching the surface - something simmilar is predicted to happen if there ever is a widespread nuclear war, and a simmilar effect caused a "mini ice age" when Krakatau exploded (the famous year-long winter which was felt around the world).
However, this effect does not last just one year - it lasts long enough to trigger an Ice Age! What happens is that Earth falls into a sort of a feedback loop. Lowered temperatures caused by the dust cloud cover cause the buildup of polar icecaps beyond a critical level needed to alter the planet's albedo - the amount of energy reflected back into space increases because the ice and snow cover are white and absorb far less energy than darker oceans and landmasses. This in turn lowers the temperatures even further until a new equillibrium is found.
Dinosaurs, dependant on abundant plantlife which can no longer survive the altered climate, start to die of. First to suffer are of course plants. Herbivore populations start to drop because those giant reptiles need a massive amount of food daily to keep going. Naturally, carnivores soon follow.
Who survives? The underdogs of the food chain - mammals and small critters (compared to dinosaurs) who can survive on much less than the giants now dying across the world. Mammals are also far better equipped to deal with a cold climate. Size ceases to be an advantage and becomes a death sentence.
Fish and marine life of course survive as well, largely protected because even during an Ice Age there are plenty of oceans to swim in.
As for oxygen, keep in mind most of our oxygen actually comes from the oceans, from the phytoplankton. It needs sunlight much as other plantlife does for photosynthesis, but since I dount the world was scolded in blistering air during the impact, I think much of the plantlife survived in the tropical regions, where the most oxygen producing forests still are (for the time being).
In the end, I don't think we humans can permanently damage this planet or render it uninhabitable yet. We can kill ourselves off, yes, but life itself is just too tough. If it can exist in an oxygen-free environment at temperatures of several hundred degrees Celsius and produce complex life forms such as worms and crabs, then it can survive anything we can throw at it as is.
Im not saying there IS something. Im saying IF there is something (could be anything for all we know, a higher intelligincene, like an alien race) it kept an eye on us. As illogical as it is, its still a possibility that we as humans cant prove or deny. So I was just throwing it out there that Life has stuck around regardless of how much hardship its faced. My overall message was it was quite arrogant of us as Humans to believe we are able to influence life beyond fasttracking a few animals to extinction (which would happen eventually anyway) or saving them cause we have the power too.
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