And I thought no LAN for SC2 was a bad idea, looks like EA decided to 'top' it
Looks like 'player progression' is code for DRM.
I wonder how long it will take for pirates to get an offline crack. I also wonder how many people with a legal copy will use the crack.
so... what happens if your net goes down at some point while playing.
That would be enough to make me crack it.
I'm looking forward to the release of C&C4 ... I would say this is a small issue
if internet connection is needed. If you don't have internet access don't buy it.
That is easy and straight forward. I would like to see SC2 do the same too. If
it stops pirates from using it I'm all for it.
Such a decision for C&C 4 only closes the door for some customers purchasing the game. Here's more examples of ways they could decrease the customer base for C&C 4 :
1) You're going to need to have Windows Vista or Windows 7 if you want to play C&C 4.
2) You're going to need to have a Nvidia's 1GB graphic card... only Nvidia will work.
3) You're going to need dual monitors to play C&C 4 .
4) You can only play online using our servers.
Etc., Etc., etc., etc.,
Each of the above variables removes customers which otherwise would have purchased the game. They are too stupid to recognize it only decreases their customer base.
This kind of thing is starting to piss me off.
We're no longer buying and owning games, we're buying access to games.
I don't like spending money on something I won't be able to play whenever I want no matter what the circumstances. I can play GalCiv 2 whenever I want, not just when I have internet access.
I hope to hell that SC2 doesn't pull this s**t.
If Blizzard pulls something like this for SC2 I will thereafter think of them as "Shitstorm" and lose all interest in thier games. Track record be damned.
since sc2 won't have a LAN and will only be playable over the internet, something like this is quite probable to happen imho
You guys should read the thread on the topic at ARS! It is a blast! Additionally threads in other communities are the same. EA is getting [justly] slammed across the board!I cant wait to slam it on Amazon (again) for such practices.
On a positive note, SD is getting some pretty good exposure over the issue with the GBR and people like me plugging it to pissed off gamers threating to stop gaming if such shit continues from publishers.
Well, there goes any chance that I would buy it. Not there was much of a chance after all the other cr@p they pull.
I don't mind, and would actually prefer, a one-time online validation rather than media-oriented DRM. There can't be that many people with PCs capable of playing today's game that lack internet.
But having to connect regularly for a SP game is just idiotic.
Am I right in understanding you need to be connected to the internet constantly while playing, as opposed to connecting to the internet say to activate the game, and then being able to play it from then on without needing internet connection?
If so, I just don't understand it - I mean they eventually realised that needing internet connection every 5-10 days for activation was a bad idea, and now they've gone about 100 steps further and required it constant at all times?! I mean online activation is fine for me - virtually everyone will have access to the internet now so a 1-off access isn't going to be difficult. I can't access it when I'm on the move or away from home easily though, and certainly not constantly, and I want to have games I can play in such situations. If a game won't let me, I'm going to be far less likely to buy it. I just hope this isn't the next stage in the worrying trend of EA's DRM, since it'll no doubt affect future bioware games as it did with mass effect .
I'm realy gonna start hacking games soon. Man these assholes keep pushing and pushing. Well I've about had it.
I to can fully understand the requirment for a one time registration threw the internet. But have it always be connected is total crap. expecialy since my internet isnt very stable and can drop out without notice.
Yeah, I was reading this on ars, a very vigorous discussion happening there. I play on a laptop alot, and it always seems that my wi-fi is always crapping out on me. Thank goodness for single player games.... er wait no more
Man, things like this used in games are getting lamer and lamer.
It won't.
If they're very creative it might take the pirates a week or so to crack it, (as opposed to days, or near instantly even), but I doubt they'll have even that much succes.
Mind you, I should probably thank EA for saving me some money, as I was interested in buying it up till now.
I'll wait until I see the reason for it before I pass judgement. It's certainly bizarre and wouldn't be something I normally go for, but I play enough of MMOs that it wouldn't particularly bother me anyway.
Join us +_+ We welcome you with open arms!
Just give up. This arms race of DRM vs piracy will only lead to a bad place. Admit defeat now before it gets worse.
It's times like these that make me glad I don't purchase anything from EA Games. I may miss out on titles like Mass Effect, but I dodge crap like this and Spore: Galactic Adventures.
Heh - there is no race. DRM sucks, and is defeated again and again by pirate groups within 48hrs of a release. I can only chuckle in disbelief when I think of the time, money and effort which is poured into DRM, only to cause grief to legitimate customers.
Honestly, I am starting to think that EA is run by lobotomized robots which got stuck in an infinite loop, and can't get out. How many failed DRM schemes do they have to try out before they finally realize they lost more money by alienating legitimate customers than they gained by those few would-be pirates who couldn't wait for those 48 hours and purchased a legit copy...
What do you mean some of you guys might crack your legal copies? I been doing that with every EA game i have owned for a few years.
This is nothing new from EA, and we all know nothing will change. There are too many folks out there simply willing to pirate at any expense, and there are the masses who will still buy games with such stupid and customer offensive DRM schemes that have no idea about what they are buying and just let themselves be swarmed along with all the accompanying game hype, as there will be for C&C4 and SC2, to even look into what they are getting themselves into.
The learned folks such as us is not who EA targets as a customer...they and we both know too much. They get the mindless types who buy what they are told..the mums buying for their kids....ect.....
That won't change, nor will piracy.
Buy the game, use the pirate cracks and be done with it.....
So the DRM has actually encouraged piracy?
lol, so true
That is one of the dumbest things i have heard of in awhile.
Sure i have a ultra high speed conncetion but like H@ll will i allow a game to be on-line every second i want to play it.
It i want a game that forces me to be online to play i will start playing MMO agian.
I buy games to play single player and use my connection for serials and updates.
PS i crack every game i buy because having to have a disk in for a disk check is really lame and i lose intrest about the 2nd time i have to go looking for that disk again and just delete it.
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