If one of my friends was entirely new to demigod or gaming in general, and I had to give them one rule to live by and become a better player it would be:If you are dead you did something wrong.There are a million ways you can end up dead. Either you went too far from base, other players, didn't have enough hp/speed, your heal got interrupted. Maybe you just weren't watching the other demigods close enough and you got ambushed. Death is the way or the opposing team telling you "you are not allowed to do that, now here is your penalty". If you happen to be a noob (nothing wrong with playing casually), but you want to become a better player all you have to do is learn from your deaths. Congradulations, you are now an intermediate player.
Now lets say you know how far you can travel away from base and still make it back in time to survive and all those little things that come into play just to stay alive. Not dying is not enough to win a pro game. The problem is that there is no clear feedback mechanism like dying to tell you exactly why you started losing. Often times you will slowly fall behind until you find youself unable to fight back at which point the game is already over, even if they haven't got near your citadel.In an extreme example, lets consider a regulus who never leaves the heatlh crystal and just continually snipes people and towers without ever putting himself in risk. Most likely he will get a few kills, destroy a few towers, and the citadel will crumble right in front of him 30 minutes later without him dying once. Its obvious this is a horrible strategy, but it follows the above rule perfectly. If you are not in danger of dying, you are doing something wrong. When I say this, I do not mean you should be putting yourself needlessly in danger or that you should be putting yourself in situations where you will certainly die if the opposing team plays properly. Instead I mean to say that you should be aggressive enough that you maximize the pressure on the other team. The regulus I mentioned before obviously contradicts this rule, but how about situations that actually may arise in a pro game?Say your teammate in running from two demigods and you just arrive on the scene. You know you can't fight them 2v1 so you stay back near a tower and once they get into range you pop off a couple shot from the towers safety to make them retreat back to the flag.Or, you charge ahead knowing that they will be after your teammate and shoot them all the while they are chasing. If they focus you instead you can always run but they still think they can kill your teammate. In the end you damage one of them enough to force them back to their crystal and are able to take the remaining demigod solo, forcing him to retreat as well and capping the flag for yourself.
As a second example, suppose you play rook and are holding a lane while the other team is fighting your teammates 3v2. You can't get over there to help them, but you can't kill the tower in your lane without taking massive damage since your build doesn't have structural transfer. However you have the health to spare, so you autoattack the tower until it blows up leaving you at half health, but by the time the enemy can take advantage of it the passive regen has taken you up to fighting strength again.
Really though, there are a million different subtle situations that can slowly win the game if you are aggresive enough to take advantage of them. Pro games can become very complex and interesting as each side pushes things to the limits, even to the point of dying yourself to kill two of the enemy demigods.Hopefully, this post will open up new tactics to intermediate players out there looking to get more of an edge on their opponents. ^^
If one of my friends was entirely new to forums or the internet in general, and I had to give them one rule to live by and become a better poster it would be:If you are a troll you did something wrong.There are a million ways you can end up a troll. Either you went too far away from the topic, became overly critical of other posters, or didn't have enough intelligence. Maybe you just weren't reading the other replies close enough and misunderstood. If you happen to be a troll (nothing wrong with flaming casually on your own forum), but you want to become a better poster all you have to do is learn from your mistake. Congradulations, you are now not clogging up an intelligent post with your random BS, both of you stop it, stop it now!-Miyamiya ^ _ ^
Uh, isn't the entire definition of trolling is that you're doing so intentionally? You can't unwittingly become a troll.
She's trolling trolls. Epic fail.
Nice post. +1
Yeh but there are plenty of ways a troll enjoys being called a "troll" however the backwards pokemon fan there is pretty much your average 4chan poster come to the DG forums to try and be the big fish in a small pond. However there are true trolls knocking about on these forums that will rear their ugly heads when they need to - however for the most part, pokeboy isn't really a threat to the integrity of these forums, so its all good, and I wont continue making an example of him.
But yes Infinite is right, you generall "troll" to piss people off, you can however accidently troll, like if you say something thats a bit of a hot topic with no prior knowledge.
the appropriate response to a troll is to report them for trolling. don't ever reply directly to them though or you're no better than they are.
foreshadowed just got owned ROFL.
really? hes just talking out his ass, he refuses to 1v1,
btw, this was copy/paste from the ED troll thread. *applauds*
Can you teach me how to become a Pro, please? How much do you take per hour?
Take Enzyte
DId you mean enzyme? I tried already - didn't work
Pro tip: Always keep current HP above 0
NOOOO
Enzyte...
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...http://enticeme.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/tvad-enzyte-smilingbob.jpg
Pro Tip #2: In conquest mode, make sure to get the opponent's citadel to 0 HP before they get yours to 0 HP.
ha!
for you and Miya
Mate, this isn't pokemon, I won't give you a gym badge if by some weird twist of fate you do win. And 2ndly, you've lost every single match that you've been in where you haven't had a premade. It wouldn't be much of a "match" even if I did enjoy pokebrawling.
It would simply be a waste of my time. Christ, you can't even TROLL properly. How the fuck can you even play without a team-mate sticking his hand up your arse and parading you around like a puppet.
I bet "QoT SHIELD ME!!" is a phrase you hear often...
Not sure where these pokemon stabs are coming from, the avatar is a joke. Give up on it, go back to the "ur bad" jokes
I havn't lost a 1v1 to anyone but Antiock, keep flaming and you may get something right.
btw, whats with you and anal fisting? First the glove comment, now this, you're the inexperienced troll
Anal jokes, invalid insults, I need moar please, and to those who want to join in on the fun, don't just talk shit in the forums, atleast verse me.
-Foreshadowed
*attempt to defend numbers*
I summed it up for anyone else that wants to read your comments
Face it mate, you're not as much of a troll as you want to be, big fish, small pond etc, go back to being 4chans most pointless poster.
Anyway, i'm not gonna harass the community by trolling you out of yet another thread. Since Demigod is one of the few forums that I genuinely want to not go the way of most other forums. I'll leave it be.
- On topic. at least try all the other demigods, so you have an understanding on how they work and what they're capable of.
To put this thread back on topic:
Great post from the OP. I think the two bold lines did in summarized the main points of becoming a decent DG player.
Sure there is a lot more to it once you go into details, but knowing when to fight and knowing when to run is where it all starts.
I wouldnt use the term pro though. PRO players are the ones who play a game as a profession, earning a living through sponsorship deals and such.
Intermediate: Run when they should not.
Wanted to emphasize this,
Running when you should be turning and fighting can get your team killed almost as surely as staying when you should be running gets you killed. By far the best method of discouraging pursuit is to deal damage to the pursuer; if the enemy isn't targeting you in a multi-DG fight, you need to be hitting them if at all possible.
The Prison map is where this is most obvious. There's such a wide no man's land that you can't rely on the towers.
It also matters in 1v1 situations. If you have fled into your towers but only have low HP, it's often safer to turn and start whacking the other guy than it is to keep running. Your towers dont hit any harder just because you are deeper in your territory, and you still lose if the towers kill the enemy DG after he kills you. This works particularly well if you have a combat potion.
now ur some White Knight? you lost this pokebattle a long time ago buddy
"How to become a pro". For that there is only two things you need to learn: 1)know when to run or fight 2)know all demigods inside out. That's what makes the difference between pros and everybody else.
Both things come with experience, just play alot of demigod and you can become "pro". Compared to many other online games Demigod isn't rocket science when it comes to strategies, game mechanisms or reflexes required from the player.
Flag locking does not show skill. It just shows that you like exploiting an item that currently has no counter.
Once they add the capture lock-break scrolls, then we'll see how skilled you are.
Dear God, the scrubage.
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