I just played a game in which the beginning of the game was fine. My side was even winning. Now we had all 4 flags and both lanes pushed back about halfway to the convergence point. Now there was a 6k health regulus that was camping that crystal at his base WHILE IN THE LANE. I myself was obviously the best player (I'm really sorry if that sounds stuck up but I was getting some of the best overall stats it just happened it was a good game). I myself was fighting these 2 regs on the other team and both of them just camped that part of the lane where they could heal. Didn't move for maybe 2 or 3 minutes. And my other 3 teammates are on the other lane fighting. I foudn it excrutiatingly annoying they could just sit and heal. And due to this I actually had to retreat and they got a crystal and capped that. Camped that for another 3 minutes.
I finally just quit the game because it became a massive crystal camp and it started with that lane issue. All i'm asking is this is fixed.
That and can we please have some way to remove flag locks. Because they had the crystals camped for a good 5 minutes with a lock on it. 3 people on 3 people. 3 on crystal 3 attacking them.
Now that my rant is over I don't want people saying stuff like. Real humble BEST PLAYER or you should have done better or it isn't all the maps fault. The fact that one player on each team was dropped out and my team had a noob with 0 kills and 6 deaths (no offense to him he was new and it was okay).
Oh. My. God. Can we PLEASE close this topic with a link to the "Flag Locks" topic RIGHT below this post?
This is incoherent. The crystals are no where near the location of the lane. They can run back and forth to the crystal... it is the intended strategy of the map afterall... but that isn't the same as standing in the middle of the lane and fighting while being healed.
Also, a 6k Regulus? Seriously?
I'm so confused. He was camping his crystal at base but in the lane at the same time? How..?
They can't stay at the crystal for the entire duration of the match. That's just ludicrous. If they did and were just sniping from there, simply go on the offensive. Start taking out towers and capping flags so their team begins to need them in different ways, and they'll retreat if they're smart (if not, and they continue to snipe, then'll get way behind on war score and lose towers; their loss, not yours).
- andpancakes
You guys know you can be healed from the crystal thats in your main base while your in the adjacent lane right? thats what he's talking about they need to move the crystal a little bit away.
I believe he's talking about the small part of the map where you can get healed by your base crystal if you're a small character like Regulus.
players. Exile is horrible anyways imho, but moving that base crystal abit further away so you can't do that would go at least a small bit further towards making it a more enjoyable map.
Anyways, I agree with WB, you can respond quite easily by locking the middle crystal and go join the others on the team to push back the other side.
Yeah thats waht i'm mad about. Nothing about their stat the fact that they held me back when i had outleveled them by about 3 levels as erebus. The person on their team with the lowest health was a regulus with 4.4k. Their rook had 8k their computer oak had 5k or so and the other regulus had 5.6k. And since the crystal heals you fully in 10 seconds they each had over 300+ health per second. When they needed health they just camped that. They all were using it except the rook who would just teleport away. Became frustrating because it probally cost us the game. That and the 2nd best player on our team crashed... DOH!
No of course they didn't camp it the whole game but when we pushed them back we couldn't touch them. As an auto-attack reg with all hp items the crystal healed them fast enough that even 2 erebus's and a regulus couldn't damage him.
My suggestion is
1) Move the crystal back. Healing in the middle lane is so stupid.
2) Make it so if you are under attack the healing crystal still heals but at a decreased rate. So you can't just camp the side crystals on exile too. So you can't just camp the crystals.
Yes i know thats part of the strategy but when the strategy becomes unbeatable it's annoying.
Yes a 5.6k reg to be exact. On my erebus he was hitting 140's and was breaking my regen by about 40 a shot but becoming invincible while healing it didn't matter he had all the time in the world.
And it's the base crystal can heal you in the middle lane. I don't think that was intended.
I know this was said I'm mostly lending mysupport to it. Exile becomes so much less tactical with this. Sorry for the referance.
I have seen this and oh man is it dumb. There's a very small area across the gap in Exile near the crystal where you can be healed by the health crystal in base while you are IN the lane.
It's nearly impossible to kill anyone even 2v1 while they're being healed by the crystal so you can basically hold the lane indefinitely with no problems.
Really, really needs a fix. It's why I always play Leviathan instead of Exile.
Hmm, I didn't know you can do this. Definitely an exploit that needs to be fixed as soon as possible. I hardly play Exile anymore, anyways.
Tomorrow's Headline shall read:
Terrible expoit found, all 5 people who still play on Exile, up in Arms!
Really does suck though.
Iunno.
I never really considered it an exploit. Frankly, if your pushing a team so hard that all they can do is camp right there, you've probably already rocked their warscore world and are closing in on their base. I had 2 Regs do that to me once, and my team just ignored them, cleared towers, retreated to heal, pushed back forward, until we got tired of em and decided to kill em. Once you hit level 7ish, 3 players should be able to take down someone camping a crystal. You just burst with spikes, and keep sustained on to reduce regeneration. Usually only takes 2 or 3 skill cycles. On a 6k Reg, it might have taken 5 or so.
Camping crystals is just something players do when they are damaged an an enemy is going to fight them in it. Why not get free heals.
The only issue with this one is that bad level design allows it to heal over a gap, and it does allow them to attempt to hold off a push. But since that map is so focused on healing crystals, this lil tactic has never really bothered me. In fact, I commonly stick to that side to push off people, then retreat to that spot to heal, and move back forward.
You can walk round him?
Touche and to tell you theres more like 8 who play exile.
And then let him continue to fire on me. The only way I was even taking his damage was with constant bite on him and since he is regulus and all the towers were up I couldn't go far without being hit with towers too which would have totally killed me because regulus was negating my regen.
Mainly I'm just asking for a fix to this.
It would be nice though if healing at a crystal was at least REDUCED when you have taken damage within the last 5 seconds or something.
Uh, yeah, that's the whole point of why it's an exploit.
Considering that Exile still comes up in Pantheon, I'm guessing there are more than 8 people who play it.
But then again, I've gotten it all of once in Pantheon, so maybe he IS right. Still, this is kinda dumb. I think moving the crystal is the best option.
The fact that Exile gets matched in 2v2 Pantheon games is another reason I hate it and hate Pantheon.
I'm sure the designers did not intend for this to happen. Hence it's a pretty obvious exploit, imo.
Seriously, stand in the 'magic spot' on the map to gain infinite health and mana while you stand there, is rather an exploit. Health crystals are placed away from the field of battle for a reason, y'know.
This exploit truely is lame. We were 4 vs 1 on an erebus that was camped there and couldn't do anything because of his bite/mist/priest/health crystal. We still won after pushing the other lane and "walking around" him.
i was that reg you were fighting against. on my defence i have not played the game in a while and i was listening to neil gaiman's "the graveyard book". i was not concentrating on the match. I hereby offer my humble apologies that you did not have a plesent fight to the death and made you rage quit. that was not my intention, all i wanted was a good fun game with humans. i got it but ppl on both teames droped so the match was somewhat a joke, fun nonetheless.
but...
even before the match started, in the lobby some1 said i should be kicked becuase i was crap in the last match that they had and throughout the game my team m8s and ppl on the other team were givin me some abuse. i stayed silent throughout.
yet hear i speak. i hope the little abuse i got is not that common. i just want to relax and play a game. i dont need abusive language.
Well...you WERE exploiting...
Well this "exploit" has been there since the game was released, and i just found out about it in the game mentioned (behind the times). I am not a hardcore player but yes i see the slight error of my way. Certainly it would have flaged up in beta?
It should in theory be simple to move the health crystal slightly out the way so people can't get a boost.
1) Sorry I offended you. No I am not angry at you for doing it. I accidentally did it one game and successfully double killed because of it.
2) Sorry I rage quited. YES I DID DO IT AND APOLIGIES TO EVERYONE WHO IS GOING TO SNIPE ME. Even though it was an issue I didn't need too. (Truthfully I had to quit to do something in 5 minutes anyway woops... and that isn't an excuse)
3) You weren't the only one using it. There was 2 others on your team who used it. The erebus and other regulus used it after they saw you. Not trying to cause offense to anyone I just want it moved.
Why in hell would you bash your head on the crystal-camping side, while you could just push onto citadel without any problems through the +HP flag?
Ahh but I did move to the other side. Then the double regulus's just pushed my allies back and started sniping our towers. Before long we were back all the way to our convergence point and I had just switched sides. Sure we had pushed them back but not as efficienctly as 2 regulus's with sniper scope and mines did to our towers and creeps.
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