I'm really not the kind that gets upset all too easily, but yesterday i had an opponent who simply went over the line for me. No, there will be no names mentioned. I only write this in hopes that by doing so i will encounter less people like that one.
I did write a big wall of text about what happened, but quite frankly noone - not even me - gives a sh!t, so lets just get past that and focus on what SHOULD AND SHOULD NOT HAPPEN IN A GAME.
Okay, lets start at the beginning. Game lobby: - Read the game's title. If it says pings<150 and you have 600 ping to the guy hosting the game, then do yourself a favor and not waste your time and his by clicking ready instead of leave. - Always check the game settings once you enter a game. Learned this the hard way myself, but its quite annoying if you leave because the game settings are not to your liking, and quite frankly.. its only yourself you can blame if that happens. Just click the game settings button and you will see them. - Say hi, when you enter a game and generally be polite. I've seen plenty of people join the game, click ready and the next you can hear from them - and the first line is - RDY UP, GOGOGO. I always have to resist the urge to just kick these players.First: greeting the others is the most basic act that any kind of good manners would require.Second: writing all caps makes you look incredibly stupid, so better turn off the caps lock before they think you wrote it all caps intentionallyThird: this is not a horse race.. no need to rush things. Pleople might still be connecting, selecting their demigod, etc.. Not to mention, that it makes you look inpatient and arrogant.- Although quite a few might disagree with me on this, but i will say it nonetheless. Unless its a 4v4 or 5v5, try not to select demigods that others already picked on your team. Many reasons really.. sure i try to be nice and allow people to play what they like best - are best with, but apart from that, i favor varied teams with no double / triple selections of the same demigod.
Once you are in the game: - Keep being nice. Do not insult / criticize players even if you think you are right. Try to help them instead if you are feeling pro enough to be a judge of their play. - Especially stay away from criticizing your team openly. Its a sure sign that a player on the other team indeed stinks: YOU. - Never quit a game prematurely, unless your whole team did agree on giving up / its a real life issue. Quitting because YOU think you are losing is plain stupid. Quitting without the consent of your team leaves them hanging there with 1 less. - Did i mention being nice? That includes your opponents as well. Be a good sport and do not spoil their victory neither should you humiliate them unnecessarily in their defeat.
A few practical tips from me gameplay wise: - Watch out for what your teammates are doing, see where the action is and try to go and be of help if they are fighting someone. Not only do you increase the odds of your team's survival, but also increase the odds of killing their demigods by doing so. - Learn when to upgrade the citadel properly and what to upgrade in it. Ever so often i find myself with newer players who would just go after any creep upgrade they can get their hands on. Do not do that. They just feed the enemy more XP and gold. Unless you absolutely know what you are doing, stick to gold and XP upgrades plus the first tower hp and tower damage upgrade. The rest of the money, spend on items / scolls of save them for later when you will have to upgrade the creeps. - Learn the effectiveness of teleport and lock scrolls. There is nothing more annoying than locking a flag just when the enemy is about to capture it then going on your business to take a flag elsewhere. 45 seconds seem way too little, but keep in mind, that quite a few games end in well under 30 minutes.. its a lot if you have to wait it out, trust me. Also use teleports to get to troubled locations or safety quickly. Keep in mind, that you can cancel the teleport while it is being cast. So if you see an enemy harass a friendly player, you can start porting to the flag.. he will see the teleport marker appear and most likely retreat. Then you can cancel the casting by giving a move order. This way, you did force an enemy to break off attacking without even being there and also saved a scroll for later use. He might not eat this trick and continue chasing, in which case you just finish the teleport and chase him off yourself. The important lesson here is learning your options.Final words:I think i could go on as far as tactics go, but its not the point of this thread, plus its mostly subjective, based on my experience / knowledge. Take it as such.. advice from someone who hopefully knows what hes doing, but theres no guarantees
If my advice on behavior and good conduct will turn just a single soul to be a better player, then i will already be happy. Other than that, enjoy your games.
The last half of your post is why I feel about you like I do.
It's the truth though.
Being stupid is completely different from being new, if you do something stupid once most people will advise you against it, if you do it multiple times I don't blame people for berating you.
I think you missed the point there. Maybe it was me not being clear enough. I have no problem with people who do not greet others. I rarely go past a simple o/ for greeting the others myself. Usually theres no need for chit-chat just to start a game. What i dont like is people who come into the game then start out by yelling ready up and go.
Apart from that, i stand by what i wrote earlier: saying hi when you join a game will not hurt you and i still think it is the nice thing to do.
Look at it this way.. theres usually plenty of games for most areas to play in. 150-200 is usually the whole of western / eastern europe and the UK (hell: im playing from hungary, but usually get 90ish pings from people in the UK), no matter where you are looking at it from. So i dont find it all too restrictive either.
Sure it excludes other areas, but quite frankly.. as i do not aim to play on US servers for casual games, they shouldnt aim to play on EU servers either. Not that i dont like them.. its just simplier and safer to minimize the size of the network involved in the game, especially for a game where everyone has to be connected to everyone else. The bigger the distance, the more hops in the route and the higher the chance of some will fail.
Pure common sense.
It seems i can't avoid telling the story what motivated my post after all.
We were having a 3v3 on cataract. On the other team was a regulus, whom i recognized as a pretty decent player. He was a real pain in the a$$ and i mean that in a good way. I did find myself running more often than not, thanks a big part to his snipes. His teammates also did a decent job at keeping the flags captured. All in all, in the first 5-10 minutes, they were having 2 out of the 3 flags capped most of the time, but sometimes all three of them. We were struggling.
Part of this struggle was our teammate, a rook who had throubles with his game. He said his game stayed black and white after he died... suffice to say, he didnt do much, must have been fighting with his game instead of the opponents. After about 10 minutes he told us that he is sorry, but he cant continue like this and then quits.
Ironically enough, the AI did a lot better than a non playing human opponents, so we were able to push the enemy back, and with the use of locks achieved a slight flag dominance (2 out of 3 most of the time) allowing us to slowly climb back to equal warscore. Having less pressure on us from war score, we were able to look at other things. We even managed to get a few good kills on from of our opponents. Thats when it started. At first i didnt realize what was wrong, but later on i managed to piece the things together. The regulus guy must have gotten into an argument with his teammates over them dying and in doing so he stopped playing. This did mean however, that now it was the 3 of us (2+AI) vs just two enemy demigods trying to hold the field. I've seen a few snipes from the regulus, but have not really seen him at any flags past that point in the game.
A few minutes later he started complaining about his team in public chat. I told him that its a damn 2v3 as far as humans are concerned, so he should stfu as him complainings is kinda ridiculous. He goes on berating his team and eventually quits.
Now the really ironic part of it all.. his team was not playing really bad. Might not have been exceptionally good either, but surely not worth the comments he made. In fact, it was him who allowed the game to turn around, and yet he was the one complaining.
He could have worked with them to overcome their weakness and get a not-so-easy win thanks to the AI feeding them, but instead he left his team. After this, the game was over. Maybe if he would have left straight away, the two remaining guys would have had a chance, but during the minutes he just talked we dominated the map giving us an advantage they couldnt negate later.
Now the thing is.. every single case i saw, where the public chat was being used to berate teammates fell into this very same category. Fairly decent player who gets upset about something his teammates do and in the end causes his team to lose because of him leaving, or going passive while holding a speech in chat. Most of the times these happen in early-mid game, where nothing is decided yet.
So nope.. sorry.. if you are mad at someone, get a piece of paper and tear it to shreds.. the other players are not your emotional recycle bin. They are not there to dump your feelings onto them. Not to mention, that more often than not, the complaining players is not even 100% right.
There's nothing competitive about playing with random teams and being an asshole to them.
Personally, I really love the automatic politeness in Team Fortress 2. When you get healed, or teleported, your character automatically thanks your benefactor. It may not be much, but I think that it has an influence on the way people behave.
problem with the game settings is that they change automatically some times! (i´ve experienced it aswell as a mate did)
it would help a lot if you could see the game´s settings right in the lobby without having to click on the button. at least the important ones would help a lot.
maybe you could do a mouse over in the game lobby itself too, so you could check the game options right while browsing the game list and not have to enter a game to check its settings.
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