Sova, you're not keeping track of information very well.

Phasers can be fired at warp.  Warp is faster than light speed.  We've seen them firing weapons forward while at warp, this is impossible if they can't move faster than the speed of light, they would exit the warp field and then instantly burn into the ship in reverse.  Solution, rapid nadions travel faster than photons do.  Phasers are faster than light weaponry.  Modern physics is irrelevant, it's fiction.

Photon torpedoes have their own warp system, a device that sustains a warp field around them.  This is what allows them to use them at warp.  While on impulse, there is no warp field to sustain.  While at warp, the torpedo maintains the impetus from which it was fired.

Star Trek weapons are dangerous.

I think you can shoot the other way around, but it is indredibly hard, like hitting the head of a nail on the far side Mercury from the Oort Cloud.

Shields and hulls are both massively more powerful in Star Trek.

Plasma torpedo and standard photon torpedo have been stated to be relatively close in power aside from the massive speed difference.  Plasma torpedo hit shields, shields go poof.  Plasma torpedo hit hull, ship go boom.  Photon torpedo hit shields, shields go down 20%.  Sixth or seventh photon torpepo hit hull, hull have hole several meters in diameter.  Conclusion, comparable shitload of plasma torpedoes to blow up the Enterprise too.

Good evening everone! How's it going?

Now lets take a look at Plasma Torpedos firepower, and this time I have more the Halo:Reach trailer, which they have a shot of at Halopedia. Also, the larger the ship the more powerful the shields, so there's not telling what a Supercarrier would be like, they have hundreds if not a couple thousand. Quote. A hundred thousand probes darted and scanned with winking electronic eyes across the void of tangled nonspaces enveloping the Covenant inner empire. They gathered data and emerged into the cold vacuum, where they were recovered by hundreds of supercarriers and cruisers in station-keeping positions around the massive, bulbous planetoid that dominated the heavens. Not a single rock larger then a centimeter could enter this space without being identified, targeted, and voporized. Authorization codes were updated hourly, and if any incoming vessel hesitated for a millisecond with the proper response, it, too, met unyielding destruction. Unquote. Page 338 of First Strike. This also rules out any chance of them capturing a Covenant ship and trying what the UNSC planed on by taking a Prophet to force a turce. The size of the Supercarrier could be anywhere from 7 to 12 kilometers, but then it could be larger, no telling.

Now lets look at the trailer for Halo: Reach. Now I would say the view when we see the explosions would be at most around 30,000 kilometers. And since everyting points to it being Covenant ships Glassing Reach, those are highly powerful weapons for the size and being seen from up there. Quote. Will done Spartan, I saw that explosion from orbit. Unquote. Most likey he had been zoomed in on the battle, I would't think that the Scarab going boom was that bright or large. And about the aillies, I think that the RSE would try and stay out of it like in DS9, but put more ships along the boarder with the Federation where the Covenant invasion starts... until the Covenant send a fleet in pass them to start glassing worlds without them seeing dozens or hundreds of ships passing through Slipspace. And we also have to remember that the Covenant have dozens or hundreds of other large, mobile stations. If only we knew what sort of weapons that the Unyielding Hierphont and High Charity had. You have to wonder what everyone would do if Truth, Mercy and Regert thought about taking High Charity around for a tour. Would most likely cause everone to run for their lives in when a giant station appears out of nowhere with thousands of ships. And tell me what you think of the story I have going so far.    

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Prologue___________________________________

0706 Hours, July seventh, 3407, Earth relative military Calendar. 47 Ursae Majoris system, planet New Constantinople. SCIC Ship Nemesis.

The non-Einsteinian space of the Starstream slowly flowed by around the Nemesis, the untouchable Star Spheres disappearing into the distance as the ship passed, a portal opened before the ship.

Space was calm ten million kilometers from the world of New Constantinople-then space seem to expand from a pinpoint into a pulsing portal of green-white. And out of the other-realms the one point three-kilometer long cruiser Nemesis drifted out, the primary fusion drives blazed to life as the ship accelerated toward the planet.

Captain Alexander Kane watch as data scrolled across the tactical display, currently showing the surrounding space.

Next to a holo of the ship was a count down timer, 5:43 Seconds to the drop.

“Sir, incoming transmission from General Nelson,” Com officer Calvin Jaggers reported.

“Patch him through.”

There was a moment of static before clearing up to the sound of gunfire and small explosions.” This is Gene-l Nelson; commanding officer of One-oh-fi-Orbital Drop Troopers Company to Sol Core Interstellar Command vessel Nemesis-” the sound of a large explosion drowned him out-”eed help. CGA forces have us pinned down and out numbered five to one. Please respo-” the transmission was cut off by an even larger explosion for a split second before going to static.

“Jade, can you hack into the orbital Com gird yet?” He asked the small, green holographic woman to his right.

“Not yet sir, they locked the entire grid down with one hell of a firewall. At this rate, by the time I get into the satellite grid we will have gone through a thousand geo-orbi-those crazy bastards... They detonated the main central reactors for the entire southern continent...”

“They blew the Mariana reactors! What the hell is going on down there? They took themselves and half the continent up in flames!”

“Sir, system wide transmission from the capital city of Vensa. Playing now,” Jaggers said.“This is Colonel Faison Maine of the Colonial Guard Army. What you are about to see and hear is what the so-called defender of the colonies, the SCIC attempted to do to stop us from librating this Inner Sphere world from their tyranny.” What was showed next was a video of what appeared to be SCIC Army division Engineers and a Colonel ordering them to overload the Mariana reactors-”

He opened a Com channel to the ODT commander on the ship, Major Dante Lionsdale.” Major, things have just gotten worse, they blew the Mariana reactors and sent a system wide transmission blaming the SCIC. Your new objective it capturing this Colonel Faison Maine, take him alive. You will be dropped half a kilometer from the capital since it seems that this Faison sent his message from the Governor’s office.”“Yes sir! They think they can get away with doing this to my home world their in for a big surprise, sir.”

“Good luck Major, and God speed. Bridge out”

 “Good luck Major, and God speed. Bridge out.”

He marched out of the his team’s Drop Pod, and into the main cargo bay twenty meters aft.

“Listen up Marines! These sons of bitches just made the biggest mistake in history by attacking my home world. Now we are going to go on a trip to the capital and show them what it means to mess around with the best in the Corps! Am I right Marines?”

“Sir yes sir!” They replied, they knew that he had a temper, he had lost his parents to when he was fifteen to a CGA bombing on the Middle Regions world of Onyx, that had been fourteen years ago, two years after it had started in the Outer Regions.

“Drop time is three minutes people, now finish stowing your gear and get in your Drop Pod double time!”

He watched as the men and woman under his command continued with the utmost efficiency, and at 1:44 until drop they were entering their team’s Orbital Drop Pod or ODP. There were a hundred pods on the ship lined up in two rows, each carrying down four ODT and gear to the Drop Zone to gain a foot hold and secure LZ and any intel on enemy positions before standard forces with heavy armor and weapons arrived. Or the more dangerous SpecOps like now. After they clear out the DZ Drop Ships would land and deploy tanks and walkers.

He entered his team’s pod and strapped in, and finished a second before the timer hit 0:000.

The ODP lurched and was ejected out of the ship with a huge force on a per-calculated course that would take them to the waterfront. The pod shook and the inside of the pod began to heat as the outside glowed.

As the pod descended through the atmosphere new data from scattered forces that had been outside the blast area of the Marianna reactors of massive CGA raids, taking vehicles, infantry weapons and anything else that wasn’t nailed down.

0722 hours, Vensa city, half-kilometer from capital building. Drop Zone, ODP 28.

“Clear, sir. No CGA combatants in sight.” Private Jason said over the Com from on top of a small rise.

“Let’s move it Marines, move up on the four story building at one-oh-clock. You take point Private, Mendoza you take rear guard, Lee with me, center,” Sergeant Venison M. Gerald ordered.

Everything had been quickly re-planed during the drop between the command pod and the rest. They had no choice, they needed to knock out enemy leadership to disorganize them with all the raids for heavy weapons, otherwise it could cost more in the long run to take them out.

As they made it to the top of a hill on the other side of a gully they saw a large forest: ponds, benches and small playgrounds of the Vensa Central Park.

“Duck! Sniper on the roof top!” They all dropped to the ground seconds before a shot from a Particle Beam Rifle went through the area that they had been seconds before. They rolled back down into the gully they had crossed. It was rare to see a PBR in the field; they required massive amounts of energy for every shot and were so expensive that less then a thousand were know to exist.

“Mendoza, take him out.”

“Yes sir,” he replied as he un-lumbered the small, three-meter tubing with a firing stud and power pack on his back. The Cydonian Foundries 77-Magntic Coil Rifle, standard sniper rifle for ground forces. It could fire a small round to 7000 meters per-second, and would go through nearly anything that was in the way. But the power source limited it to four shots per power cell.

He attached a scope to the tubing.” Jason, give me firing data,” he asked as he lay still, ready for the feed from the Private’s Fiberoptic Cable.

He walked in a crouch and stopped six inches below the rise, and gently slid the FoC along the ground until was over the rise.” Sending data now.”

He adjusted his aim and fired. The round went right through the hill without slowing down and hit the sniper dead center, he exploded, sending pink pieces flying over the rooftop.

“Clear, sir.” He reported.

“Move move move!” He shouted. The sound of CF 55-Pulse Coil Assault Rifles could be heard as they moved through the forest. The 55-Pulse Rifle was weaker then the CF 77, only firing at two thousand meters per-second along five feet of tubing in three round burst, able to fire twenty rounds before a new power cell pack was needed.

A CGA patrol came around a corner as they moved out onto a path. The Marines brought their AR’s to bear before the enemy forces could. They staggered their firing so they didn’t end up reloading or replacing a power cell at the sometime. Rounds went wild in the chaos, hitting trees and benches causing them to explode. The Marines Nano-Sheet Fiber armor could was able to keep a limited amount of rounds from penetrating, but for ever round that hit that didn’t injure or kill sent them flying back to the ground. After four minutes the fight was over and the Marines moved on, appalling fresh patches of Nano-Fiber over weaken sections. They made it to the building without any farther incident. It was a small apartment building, the front door was locked. Lee smashed a window and threw in a Flash-Bang grenade, seven seconds later it went off and two seconds later the Marines had kicked the door opened and took in the sight of the lobby: three CGA knocked out over the check in counter and another two on the ground by a table.

“Secure them and police those weapons.”“This is Major Dante to all SCIC ODT, Drop Ships arrive in four minutes. Keep the perimeter clear and be ready to move on the capital building as soon as the Ships arrive. Field HQ out.”

“Move up to the second story roof, make sure all the rooms are clear,” they had made it to the roof after checking each room with thermal googols, they had all been clear.

It was 3:11 on the timer for the Drop Ships.

“Sir! Incoming bogies, four Shiva scouts on the east road.” Mendoza reported.

“Take them out.” Gerald ordered. The Shiva’s were a hundred meters away when they opened fire on the vehicles, trying to take out the gunners before they could return fire. They had either overconfident, stupid or both because they swerved and weaved on the street, keeping the gunners from aiming.

One of the vehicles crashed into a mall on the other side of the street as the Marines took out the rest.

“All hostiles down, nothing else in the area, sir.”“All ODT move out. Head to the capital will the greenies take care of the rest of the city. Field HQ out.”

He knew the slang, greenies, those that had never been in a ODP, entering the atmosphere of the planet at high speeds with the inside heating up to a hundred degrees.

“Time to pay the new governor a visit. Pack up and lets move.” It took less then thirty seconds to repack their gear.

Tell me what you think and if I made any mistakes and anything that would make it better. And would Nano fiber work good enough? I just thought of the strongest thing I could. And of course you can post this else where as long as you remember to put up my name. And to any that are not members of this site or haven't posted here: I will hunt you down if I find this anywhere and being claim as your work and either sue or... the more fun option of glassing your house. Just joking about the last option. Thanks.  

Edit: And there is another ship with a far stronger hull: The Forerunner Dreadnought/Keyship. That thing when fully operational could make stars go Nova, or big stars go Super Nova. I would be running for my life if I saw a fully armed and working Keyship coming at me.

This has been a UNSC transmission.

Warp fields are not large.  They've shown the bubble around the ship numerous times.  They would have to be nearly touching for the fields to over-lap.  Considering how it's supposed to work, that might be dangerous as well.  A warp field inside a warp field would probably destabilize it.

Impulse, yeah, it's a form of fusion.  They also have batteries for emergency power.  Even a detonation is only in the same power range as an individual photon torpedo.  For real power, they use the warp core.  The actual drive is not fusion btw, it's this.  The warp drive is a reactionless drive.

Hell, I don't have any idea what they were thinking.  I just pretend they don't exist while watching TWOK.

To all you halo fanboys, Sova especially.

Face facts.

SOLID SNAKE KICKS MASTER CHIEF'S ASS.

That must be why you had to move on from MGS vs. HALO topics to something as nonsensical as Star Trek vs. Halo!

METAL GEAR REX WOULD EAT EVER SPACE SHIP IN THE HALO UNIVERSE AND SHIT IT OUT.

because it's a NUCLEAR EQUIPPED WALKING BATTLE TANK.

METAL GEEEEAR.

BROTHA!

OWNED I OWNED YOU SOLID SNAKE, BROTHAAAA!

This has been an MSF transmisson.

ps UNSC is gay

Solid Snake vs Master Chief (Destroyer of Worlds and one man army of doom) MC luaghs at Solid Snakes attacks and uses Spartan Laser to burn him to a crisp. Master Chief is the best of the best, Solid Snake would't stand a chance of making it through what he has without some sort of powered armor.

MC: Turn into giant in Legendary mode attack! Master Chief grows into a 400 feet high Spartan. Solid Snake: Run away from green titan! He turns tail back down the path on the island. MC: Grab Solid Snake and take off helmet attack! A huge armored hand grabed Solid Snake and brought up to be level with the visor of the MC. Down below, tied up to a wooden stack world famous adventure Indiana Jones yells: Close yours and don't look his face! The Ark is a dud, it will just shoot out some sparks. Back above the MC pulls off his helmet as the Ark is opened-ghost and demons come from within the helmet as the Ark just throws out some sparks as Solid Snake and the Germans melt.  

And I have never done a MGS vs Halo since the UNSC or Covenant would't even have to send in ground forces to win, just nuke'em or glass him and everone else since if they try and reach space they get turn into an expanding cloud of superheated gas and dust.

"Chief, there's a nuclear armed walking tank coming this way, want me to take control so you can go on a rampage through the lower levels of High Charity?" MC:" Go for it!"

Ten seconds later:" Mahahahaha! Die evil Covenant scam! Feel the power of my new nuclear armed tank the Chief-anator!"

And you do now that the that the moment that anyone from the UNSC like a Spartan or someone sees that last part your going to have hundreds of Spartan III's and ODST, aka Hell Jumpers around your house that mark it for the site of the new version of the dino-killing crater? You have brought world wide death and destruction to the entire human race.

This has been a UNSC transmission.

PS: Look out! The UNSC told the Covenant that you also called them gay! Everone run for your life!  

All right, its late and I'm annoyed now. This is not MGS vs Halo, and Solid Snake could never take out even a Grunt!  Either side with Halo of Star Trek or not annoy me! I'll fire the Halo Array if you don't! Everone but you will be on the Ark. MC and rest of Halo> You. Edit: Blast it! How the hell did I put the greater sign toward you?

This has been a UNSC transmission.

Cortana: Charge is at 90 percent, firing sequence engaged! Wait, why am I worried? Everone besides that guy that dared call us gay is on the Ark. Shink: Oh sh... looking up to see Halo ring in Earth orbit firing.

Edit: you called the Xbox 360 gay?! Which would also put Halo in that area?! You fool! Now nearly eight million people will come for you!

you do realize that snake isn't real, right?  and that pulling a magic box out of his ass that somehow fools his retarded enemies isn't exactly that realistic.  besides, a spartan laser is actually fairly accurate.

and it sems that flamers are drawn to these kinds of threads (one sci fi vs. another sci fi; it happened in ST vs. SW, and I'm fairly certain at least some of it happened in Halo vs. SW)

@GAS117; (reffering to "Well done, spartan.  I saw that explosion from orbit) On the Ark, orbit is fairly low.  at low orbit, it'd be around... 4-5 km above the surface, I think.  at high orbit, around 100km.  and the Ark has amazingly clear air, unlike Earth's.  and the Great Wall of China can actually be seen from orbit, even though it's what, 40-50 wide at max?

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also, a tip on Ship names: the names of ships, when written, are italicized, such as the Shadow of Intent, the Andromeda, the Galactica, and the Nemesis.  if the rest of text around it is italicized, then it is normal.  (i.e. The Shadow of Intent, and the Nemesis)



Are you really telling me how to make a post when you can't even capitalize and punctuate correctly? Right.

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nope.  I'm telling Sova about a property of ship names, which I only bother with while seriously writing.  I don't care about my capitalization, etc. in my posts.  but I maintain nearly impeccable grammar in my story writing.

don't believe me?  check out https://forums.sinsofasolarempire.com/331627

Thank you for the help. And there was some flaming in Halo vs SW, just not as annoying! But it gave me some ideas for jokes there.

This has been a UNSC transmission.