And you know what? That's the problem. They're ignoring a majority of what I write and still think they've read enough to reply. If it's so boring you need to ignore it...ignore ALL of it and go post in another thread. You don't chime in on a conversation you've only heard part of.

Maybe it was a business decision (time/cost/technical issues/ect vs projected amount of players they felt they would pickup)...and not them "being lazy".

I tell ya...I have a real contempt for the kids these days who run around calling developers "lazy"...it's unbelievable.

OP to put it simple. It's like you are playing on a Playstation 2 and demand it to play Playstation 3 games.


If you want to keep up with PC gaming you will need to upgrade every 2-5 years depending on what you want to play and how nice the graphics you want look at decent FPS. The same goes with consoles. Sure some games come out for PS2 still, but the best ones come out for PS3 and 360, obviously.

 

It's probably someone with your kind of mindset on PC gaming hardware that comes into our games and lags it up with 2-4 sim speed and still thinks the games broken when the problem is actually the 5 year old Compaq you are running it on. Then that person comes to the forums and cries bloody murder on the game, all because their hardware is junk.


Uh-huh, uh-huh, actually it's nothing like that. You're comparing a minor graphical process to an entirely different engine and format. I challenge you to try and spot any difference running a game with PS 3.0 and then with 2.0. The difference is negligible. It's a bigger difference to go from 4xFSAA to 8xFSAA and I can hardly tell a difference there. Apparently you know nothing about the subject. Btw, just another point: many developers release the same titles on PS3 and PS2. They have completely different hardware and yet they easily, quickly, and cheaply, develop the game to run on multiple platforms just fine. Most others are on PS3, XBox360, and Wii. And the Wii has nowhere near the graphical power of the 360 or PS3.


X800 is like ridiculously oudated. Time for a new computer, You can get a top notch tower for like 1100 with a core i7 chip and radeon 4850.

My computer lasted 5 years before I upgraded, I was using a radeon 9800, which came out shortly before the x800.

Im going to have to agree with Kstampy here, You may be able to run the game but it runs like shit, Its nobodys fault but your own.

Bottom line: Stop being a cheap skate, get a decent computer and have a nice gaming experience. I never thought a Rig would make a difference in my gaming but its boosted my "skills" or rather, Skill output a good 25-35% in RTS and in FPS games because of graphics view distances and FPS, resolution, it all makes a difference. You're lagging behind in 2003 dude. The best mentality I can say, Build a computer to smoke games for like 2-3 years, with a good motherboard to upgrade with. Now with SLI and CF you can easily boost your gaming power without dropping more than 150-200 dollars


Another useless, redundant post from someone who can't read. I never said the X800 isn't outdated. Unlike most people on this forum, my life does not revolve around my computer and games. Gaming is a HOBBY not a lifestyle. People need to learn moderation for Christ's sake. Nonetheless, I have every intention of buying a new system...when I feel it's warranted. There's no point in doing it just because I can't play one mediocre game. I can still play most of the mainstays I play just fine. Such as Fallout 3 and occasionally DAoC or WoW as well as all the ones inbetween I play here and there such as CSS, TF2, and others. As old as my X800 is, I've never had a single problem running anything until now. When a game I absolutely have to have and can't play comes out, I'll upgrade. What you illiterate simps can't seem to comprehend is that I made this post to voice my bitterness based on principle. It has nothing to do with wanting to play the game or not being able to afford an upgrade. I guess it's my fault as I often forget how ignorant most people that frequent forums are. You take someone and add a lifetime of ridicule, subtract a girlfriend and social life, add in a lot of free time, subtract any real responsibilities or aspirations and you get forum knowitalls. The kinds of people that seem to post on every single thread posted and actually think that anyone gives a damn about their point of view or what they're saying, which is often grossly over-estimated by the knowitall. Thinking he's posted something profound or witty, he fails to realize that the words he's left behind give readers an image of a scrawny boy with long greasy hair and the bangs covering one or both of his eyes. Face scarred by acne while he grins in self-satisfaction showing his braces until he covers them to take a drink of his 2 liter mountain dew and return to his griefing in any random online game or perhaps to build up his all important score on that FPS he's been playing for 6 hrs straight now. A scrawny kid who doesn't realize that everyone around him wishes he'd wash his hair and go outside once in a while and they're starting to wonder if he's gay or just completely unattractive to the opposite sex. All the while he's drooling over whatever female representation he happens to see on his computer screen. Thinking that that prostitute in GTA is hot and that he's somehow the one she's hooking up with and not just the character he's playing. In his dimented little mind he thinks he just got laid when the car rocked a few times. Sadly, he continues to repeat this act over and over, getting some kind of excitement from watching a car rock and imagining the "hot" cluster of pixels in front of him is having sex with the other cluster of pixels that is his studly self.


[quote who="J3ph42" reply="13" id="2218598"]This is why I never buy top end. My wife's 7600GT runs this, and cost a lot less than an X800. Every time a PS 3.0 game comes out (for how many years now? Haven't you guys gotten tired of whining on game forums yet?), everyone with a pre X1000 ATI card complains, but PS 3.0 doesn't go away. Buy midrange, and if you can't afford it, buy a good low end. If you can't get that, why are you spending your time playing videogames when you should taking classes at the local CC or something to get a better job?


Why aren't you taking classes at your local CC to learn how to read? If you don't like reading threads of people complaining about it...don't read them. Simple solution. You're tired of it yet you continue to post replies to them? You know what I'm sick of? People who walk into a sauna and say "It's too hot in here!" That's the mentality of all the egotistical Americans these days. Americans already think they own the world, now they think they own every one else, too. Whenever an American doesn't like something that someone else is doing, they try to change it instead of staying away from it. It's like all the states that have passed laws against smoking in bars instead of letting the bar owners decide. Why? Because people like this complained. "I walked in a bar and they were smoking!" "Then why didn't you just walk back out?" "I shouldn't have to! If I want to go in that bar and not be exposed to smoke, I should be able to!" You people think everything should be your way and whatever you believe is the only thing that's right. If you don't smoke, then everyone that does is disgusting. If you're an atheist, then anyone who's religious is stupid or naive. If you spend your life in front of your computer and all your money on games and hardware, anyone who doesn't is cheap or poor. Get a life, then grow up.


[quote who="Shortlived99" reply="14" id="2218757"]40$ graphics card will not run this game unless your running a quad core.  HAHA.  But then again, who in their right mind buys ATI?


People who don't buy into hype or fall for advertising tricks. I used to buy GeForce cards back when the Radeon 9700 first came out. I bought the best GeForce on the market and discovered that some games I played still had low framerates and graphical glitches. I then bought the Radeon 9700, but before installing it, ran the GeForce through 3DMark. Then I swapped cards and ran the 9700 through it. The overall score on the 9700 was over 6 times higher than the GeForce and I had double the framerates. The best part: The 9700 was cheaper. The people that think ATI sucks are the same kinds of people that prefer Macs or Intel. AMD processors are much faster than their Intel equivalents, run a lower temperatures, and overclock much easier and with less risk.


[quote who="Chaoticon" reply="15" id="2218833"]Even if you could play no one would want to play with you because your sim speed would be beyond bad bad. If you are using an x800 im sure your processor is pretty bad to. Its 2009 this is a pretty intensive game since they chose to use the supcom engine.


And SupComm ran fine for me, even online.


Now, for all you morons that couldn't read that I said I didn't want any retard replies: Don't waste my time or yours. If you can't comprehend that your comments are not only a waste of space and time, but completely unfounded since you obviously didn't read what I wrote. I don't know if youre attention spans are just as short as your pricks or your IQ is so low you just don't really understand words too well. Either way, move on to a thread about who's got the bigger porn collection or something you can actually participate in. You morons have just missed the entire point. You pick out one or two sentences, read nothing else, and then post a reply that makes you sound like a 12 year old. To break down my post in small words you can understand....I hope:


Me have old video card. Me know this. Me not spend lots of ching ching on pornogamobox parts. Me buy what me need to do what me want. Me not care if you say me should buy new card. Me not care that much about playing Demigod game. Me's life not all about games and porn. Me have life. Me spend money on more important things. Important means things that mean more to me than practice sitting. Me no care you's dumb thoughts. Me almost give up trying to help yous understand words. Yous too stupid to learn. If yous no like what me say or no agree with me, then ignore me and go somewhere else. Me no give a shit what you think. Me ask for mature and smart responses. Me no get any.


Is that understandable to you simps? Now, let me reiterate what I've been saying a million times and you just can't seem to comprehend: They had planned on supporting 2.0, but changed that at release. If times was an issue, a patch could've been released later. This game is based on the SupComm engine which DID support 2.0. It would not have been that expensive or difficult for them to support 2.0. There's really nothing they would have lost by supporting it. In business, when gain is more than cost, it's smart to proceed. You continue to argue that it can't be done yet 3D-Analyze was a program that emulated 2.0 on earlier cards that ran 1.4 or 1.0. It may very well support emulation for 3.0 in the future...it may not. Bioshock "REQUIRED" 3.0 but a simple, extremely small fix was released by an independent 3rd party programmer to support 2.0. If this was done by some wiz in his basement or whatever, you can't tell me an entire company can't do it. There's no excuse. Unless you're a video game programmer that worked on Demigod in the rendering department, I don't want to hear anything you have to say about how hard/expensive it is to do, etc. etc. etc. blah blah blah. You can act like you know whatever, but I don't give a shit. Unless you worked on THIS GAME specifically with Pixel Shader support...DON'T post anything pretending you know how it's done.


Furthermore, DO NOT POST ANYTHING ABOUT BUYING A NEW VIDEO CARD. Apparently the 40 other times I said it didn't get through. I'm well aware of my video card situation, thank you. As I've stated, I don't care enough to do so at this point in time, thank you for your concern. I'll upgrade when I please and how I please, if you don't mind. I don't care to hear your opinions on what I SHOULD do or when and how I should upgrade or anything having to do with me upgrading whatsoever. Is that clear enough? Can everyone understand this or is it going to continue to be ignored by all the dumbfounded products of incest that read this paragraph and sit there glassy-eyed and mouth agape staring at their monitor not knowing what I mean by: I DON'T CARE ABOUT ANYONE SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT ME UPGRADING MY F***ING VIDEO CARD!!!


Now that that's been said....again. The point I've been TRYING to make is the principle. The developer could have supporteed 2.0 and lost nothing for doing it and gained extra sells as well as been commended for better customer service, but didn't. It CAN be done, it's been done by less knowledgeable people in the past. Yes there are many casual gamers out there that don't spend all their cash on computer parts because they have other priorities in life. This doesn't mean they're cheap or poor. Why don't you go buy a bigger water heater? How about a prettier faucet? One of those that don't drip after a lot of usage? Why don't you? Because you don't need/want to. It's not a priority. Could you afford it? Yes. Do you want to buy it? No. Right now, a new video card to me is like buying a bigger water heater. So drop it already.


My primary point is that game developers and hardware companies make these off-the-record deals. My guess about what happened here: The graphics card manufacturers made a deal with some game developers, like this one, to make their game require PS3.0 so gamers will have to buy new video cards that ordinarily may not for a while. A game like this comes out and gamers (just like you idiots that keep clammering "Buy a new card, Ahyuck!") run and buy a new video card, thus driving up their sales. In return they might pay the developers or cut them deals on permission to use their technology, etc. Put quite simply: They could suppor 2.0 but didn't and won't, most likely because they're getting something out of forcing it to drive hardware sales. Case closed.


Anything having to do with why they didn't - Not needed, don't care, keep it to yourself.
Anything having to do with me upgrading - Already coverd...numerous times...f*** off, I'm sick of your stupidity and I'm tired of pointing out the obvious.


EDIT: The quoteblocks are all f***ed up but I really don't care enough to go back and find the problem.

Holy mega-quote-thread-revival OP!

 

They're excluding you and maybe 2 other people in the world willing to spend $40 on a new game but not $40 on a new gfx card. Developing a second rendering system for so few potential sales isn't worth it, even if it takes just one guy one day to do it (and don't delude yourself that because one guy did it for bioshock in a few months it must be simple, many people do things as a hobby that aren't cost/time efficient for a business) then the profit on that handful of sales wouldn't even pay for that minor expenditure.

 

So stop saying it should support shader 2 because upgrading isn't warrented for you yet, "not being able to play new games" is one of the factors to be considered when balancing the cost of a new card, if that's not enough to warrent an upgrade then man up and stop whining in the mean time.

 

Expecting anyone to bend to your will and lose money just for your benifit is egotistical to the point of narcissism. Being that self-centered in a modern co-operative society can only do you harm in the long run.

I did not bother to read all of your post.  But from the part I did read, I think you might need to get a new video card.

This post turned from dumb into pathetic. How could you get so worked up over something so miniscule. Go buy a damn card or stop crying like a little girl that can't fit her Old Barbies into her New Barbie Dream House.

 

Bottom line is this game relies on everyone running the game smoothly. If you are running a 5 year old (or older) computer everyone will lag THEN kick you or put you on their ban list. No one but you cares what "other games will play on your POS set up." No one but you cares about the principle of adding shader 2.0 support, obviously. The proof is in this forum thread.

 

I seriously can't believe the things people will actuall rant about on the internet (you would think nothing would surprise you after 15 years of internet use but wow, people never sieze to amaze). Go buy a new set up or just shut up... or both. I prefer the last option. After you decide what to do, google up some anger management classes and save us all from your wretched attitude.

 

After that, hire a life coach. Your first lesson will be "How to buy a new video card!"