I find the title of this post waay out of line. Its in your right to be mad at a nerf but you could do it in a more proper way.

 

Give it some time to see its effect it will have, if its too bad they will of course up him again

As you well know proving facts or having a philosophical debate over what is a fact or how we should define them won't really get us anywhere.   I believe you should show some respect to those communicating with you.

I knew this thread was going to be fun the moment I read the title.

Based on your thread title alone, I feel it's a fair assumption that our definitions of 'intellectual discussion' differ greatly. You are aware, of course, that GPG collects data from the games played for use in balancing as well as the forum feedback? Based on their internal numbers, combined with the experiences their player base is reporting, they've clearly decided that Bite was operating outside of it's intended figures and as such have re-balanced it's attributes to bring the numbers into check. If you knew anything about game balance you'd realise the idea of balance is to remove the "best" characters and ensure all characters are viable play options.


Incorrect. When balancing a game the developers do not assume that any one other factor is in place, as this will eventually lead to the creation or development of situational Demigods; Demigods that only really excel when a certain criteria has been met, such as the presence of another Demigod. For a real world example of this, please refer to DotA, which based several items and Heroes around situations; several of these are now the least selected items and Heroes in the game.
 


Actually you've identified an incorrect assumption; the assumption is that he has taken Bat Swarm - no Demigod has infinite mana and thus this assumption will never be made. Experienced players entering a difficult fight always leave a little 'something extra' to get out of the battle should it not go in their favour; an escape plan. In Erebus' case it's enough mana for a Bat Swarm out, or even possibly a stun. The idea of the Bat Swarm wasn't to provide an absolute escape – that would be Teleport’s job - the ability’s purpose is either increase distance while dealing damage, or decrease distance while dealing damage and as such mentioning that it doesn't place you outside of Snipes range, for example, is pointless.

This is true for all players and all Demigods and thus is negated in a thread discussion revolving around an Erebus' nerf.


Your absolute lack of understanding and apparently low opinion for the staff at GPG is enough of a reply in itself, however I'm a firm believer of going the extra mile and so I'd like to point out that GPG are responsible for hard coding an entire game from scratch that has received critical acclaim, has a dedicated user base of pleased fans and dwarfed all previous RTS Games previously with Supreme Commander. I don't pretend to understand the habits of the mentally ill, however I'm sure that they don't spend their days programming games.


Again, attempting to discus balance while making assumptions, like an enemy is going to stack identical items, is a pointless discussion and negates anything terribly meaningful you might have actually said. The purpose of the items was to provide enough room for a player to decide how they want their Demigod to perform, and this was taken into consideration when balancing the items. For example, Unclean Beast stacking nothing by +DPS items becomes almost unstoppable in Melee combat, however this was clearly the intended purpose of the character. Lord Erebus was clearly not meant to be able to significantly cripple an enemy while healing himself and doing significant damage. This was brought into check.


What Demigod can single handly Tank a Tower and another Demigod comfortably to warrant such a statement?


I'd like to address your apparent lack of respect for the other forum members. Being unhappy with negative changes to the character you play is acceptable; I also play as Erebus primarily and feel that he was over nerfed, however I absolutely agree with the fact that he needed a nerf to Bite. However, insulting them, the developers, and clearly contradicting yourself throughout your rather obviously game-loss inspired rant is bordering on entirely unacceptable behaviour. Your on a forum for a game for pity’s sake; calm down.


Being as Clan matches have yet to be implemented and wide spread organised team battles are a ways off yet, thanks in no small part to the connection troubles, where else do you expect them to get their data from?


Over-reactions hurt your argument, and having no information besides wild speculation and insults doesn't help it. This entire thread was created due to your opinion - and everyone knew what that was before the page had finished loading.
 

As I've mentioned above, GPG have created a fairly complicated piece of code, which is direct contravention to your statement that they mentally retarded. This is fact. Being as your the one putting forth this argument, the burden of proof is at your feet; show me the official statement that the nerf to Erebus was entirely based on their feedback from the forums. Do you think they just pull those adjustments out of air?

No one here needs to brand you anything, you’ve branded yourself with your own words. I feel I need to say nothing besides advising that you think next time you decide to make this kind of thread in the future.

 

Extacide, are you thirteen or something? I just refuse to believe that an adult would spew shit like that.

I hope the new future functions allow us to block certain people from games. . .  and set them to ignore. . .

This is exactly why i never got into DOTA. Freakin' elitists that think they know everything and everyone is below them. Personally, i think people like this are people who got shoved into  garbage cans too many times in high school and couldn't beat their way out of a wet paper back with claw hammer in real life.

Am i stupid or is there a way to delete posts in the edit selection that i am missing?

Don't feed Extacide with responses.

God damn it, I forgot to check the card's rules.

My fault guys, sorry.

I believe that Demigod would be a better game if Extacide was banned.

You know, when trying to say this is "intellectual discussion", I would also refrain from cussing to make myself look like an ass.  Seriously Extacide, grow the hell up - we don't even know what the numbers for the new bite are.

LOL

Erebus had it coming.

Exctacide, I don't think they are nerfing solely based on what has been said on the forums. They have much more data than we ever will have and most likely noticed something wrong BEYOND what the whiners said.

Their data probably showed Erebus had most played, most victories, highest average level, etc.. in games and therefore gave a look at him, read the forums and nerfed the Bite ability as it should have been.

Bite was too good as is, period. There is no reason to discuss this. It should NEVER have done so many things at once with the same mana cost as Fireball.

Now, instead of whining, I would suggest you follow your own advice of patience and testing. Calling names on GPG before we even have any experience with the new Bite is childish.

We are probably looking at something like 275/325 instead of 300/300 dam/mana ratio. I wouldn't expect a huge change.

That said, your name calling here and in the old Erebus thread clearly deserves a warning or even a temporary ban. This is not your private place.

This is a disgraceful thread. 

Posting is a priviledge. One that can be revoked.