If the concept revolves around a wizard AND shall not be a Torch-Bearer rip-off, then he should have a more magic feel to him.

The initial proposal rather looks like a World of Warcraft Shaman.

Abilities that feel wizardry

1. Craft Items
   The ability to create the consumables like teleport scroll, potions, flag locks, etc.
   More levels allow different items.
   
2. Juxtapose
   Switch positions with target Demigod (within a reasonable radius). The higher the level, the higher the disorientation effect of the target, which could be either a short stun or some kind of tumbling effect.
3. Time Shift
   Strongly slow down EVERYTHING around you, including allies. Movement, animation, attacks ... kinda like a bullet-time effect. Higher levels either increase length or strength of effect, or lessen the effect for allies.
4. Magic Missiles
   Sounds wizardry enough.
   Maybe make it like Isaac's greater missile storm from D&D, which means that all missiles are homing and distribute themselves among all targets in specified area. The less targets, the more missiles each target gets.
   However, I'd make this a passive skill, so that this DG's basic attack does area damage of a kind. This will put all those D&D players in their places, too, if they hear that one of the most useful PvP spells in Neverwinter Nights is the basic attack of this DG.
   
5. Magic Armor
   Every mage should have three kind of spells prepared. One to fight, one to defend, and one to get the hell out.
   Magic armor sounds wizardy enough, too.
   
6. Charm Beast
   Something new and potentially interesting, too. I'm not so sure how useful this will be unless you can grab other generals' minions. And I'd call it something else more in the line of Mind Control.
7. Summon
   Gate reinforcements from target portal directly to you. The higher the level, the higher the number of creatures you can control. Excess creeps just run off on their own.
8. Don't you  need a switch button for so many active skills ?
   

I really like this idea as well. 

I'd like a more defensive based hero for darkness... very simular to the Tactician above. Think egyiption god Anubis (head of a jackal) if you've seen Stargate you know what I'm talking about as well.

Basicly a slave driver/builder demigod who can build walls or renforce towers.

Of course, would creeps stop and beat on the walls, or would they just travel another way?

Might be intresting if his minions did not fight, but actually were used to build things (then again that might be too big of a change). 

Just letting the ideas flow...

-Jara

PS: I don't care for the generic wizard idea too much... feels too fantasy and overdone and if you want a spell caster TB fills that roll well.

PPS: It might be helpful to give us some design templates to build from.  For example what is missing on the sides of light/darkness?  Greater AOE for Light?  Slower moving defensive demigod for dark?  etc, etc.  That could help the comunity focus in a little more... but perhase that's the next stage

classic wizard with no single target damage =  

I'd swap out invul with a short insta root (2,3,4)

make magic missle single target

melee combat bonuses on a wizard?  swap that out for something like mirror image

the gold thing is kinda lame too.  another damage spell such as a slow(5/10/15%)/dot combination would be cool, but maybe too much cc with the insta root.  possibly just a dot instead

if the towers boosted magic/skill damage by 20% at the 4th tier then it might be worth getting to.

honestly?

You all proposed demigods that basicly never need to come to the frontlines. whats up with that. even the torchbearer needs to move his arse out i nthe open to achieve anything....

not to mention that support charachters that give buffs make their existence in every team MANDATORY.

None of the demigods that are here now feature massive support for other demigods. And why would they? even sednas heal is not a real team support, since most sednas dont even skill it and ifthey di iuts because they play the role of assasing, following demigods till they kill them, heal and escape alive. And why would they do it for the team. for a short burst of hp a potion or item will always work better, faster and with less sacrifices on the sedna built or her actions on the battlefield.

There are several very neat suggestions for skills in all your posts, but the complete packages you each propose just conjure up a "bleh" from me, plus they all have that "oh i've seen that before... in my diablo/d&d game" feeling.

I know it is hard to come up with something original in a fantasy setting nowadays, but please at least TRY harder than this *points up*.

And please remember: demigods are in it each for his own good.

And if you create a demigod based o ntrickery and mindfuckery (which is cool) then for gods sake call him Jester or something like that.

I also agree with the need for more female demigod.

Orginally I thought they already had 2 demigods lined up. They just weren't done or tested enough to make it for release. Here we are talking about concepts and how the new demigod should look...I guess whatever it turns out to be, we won't be seeing new Demigods for a very...very long time

I haven't read every page of this post, so sorry if some of these ideas have been state.

I like the wizard idea, but I don't like a few of the abilities.  I think it should be more magic/mana orientated if hes to be a pure wizard type.  How about Abilities:

1. Magic orbs or towers - same as what you posted for totems except nerf each thing to 15%

2. Spell immunity - either leave the same (altho very simily to oaks shield) or make it last longer but only immunity to magic/abilities

3. Magic Missile - Perfect, leave it the same.

4. Instead of Charm Beast, how about mana explosion.  For each reinforcement/minion/dg that dies the wizard gets mana, either a % of the dmg, or per death, doesn't matter.

5.Magic Armor - this is too good.  Its already easy enough to stack armor items.  How about Mana shield.  10/15/25%  of damage goes to mana instead.

6. Staff Combat (or staff infusal, name doesnt matter) - Turn it on similar to Regulus's wings.  Takes mana per swing but does more damage.

7. Money Purse - Same as you posted.

I think these changes would make him mana dependant (like a wizard should be), however he'd be able to get some back with Mana Explosion.  He'd be strong when he has mana but he'd have to be careful to manage it.

Lastly you could also give him a mana transfer ability (transfer mana to  an allied DG), but that might be too overpowered in some situations, not really sure without seeing it in game.  However it could be diminished.  Transfer 1000 mana, they recieve 800 (some mana is lost in the void).

-Crank

i am working on some concepts for some demigods atm, hopefully you guys will like them

some of the ideas for them, have i heard about in this thread as something some people wanted to see

alot of his abilities require him to sacrifice his minions that he will buy with gold? so he wouldnt be a DG that a newcomer just could pick and have fun with, seeing what you need to do, to handout damage

I like the idea of the wizard theme, although if we're going to keep the General/Assassin structure (which I'm not sure we should) I think heading in the direction of magic missle etc is a bad idea, we have alot of that already. Also the totem idea seems a bit...hmm, dry... the effects sound nifty but really, I'm not envisioning it being very fun gameplay to run around dropping rocks in key spots.

 When I think of a wizard etc., especially in the context of a General Demigod, I'm thinking more of theming it around summons, like literaly all the skills work as creature summons, except the skill versions only last short amounts of time. Lets try some examples...

Griffon Storm: Xmana and a giant griffon flys into the map and attacks the target for 5-15seconds depending on the time it takes to properly introduce him to the map.

or

Tentacle Summons: Xmana AOE. For 5-10-15 seconds tentacles erupt from the ground and attack anything nearby, perhaps even slowing movement of demigods they damage.

or

Mist Wall: Xmana +dmghealth. Summon a wall of mist that can close lanes for short periods, open to abuse obviously, so a long cool down and to make sure we'll say that when the wall takes damage, the wizard takes equal damage.

or

Enchanted Skeletons: Xmana. Cast on enemy grunt to have it's skeleton pop out and become a pet like the nightwalkers for erebus. I'm liking the idea of some skeleton catapultasaurus:))

anyhow...I think you'll get the theme I'm shooting for here. Just a thought. It's different...and you can incorporate any of the effects of 'normal' skills through a short term proxy summon.

FYI: By character art I meant models as well, not just concept art

As for skills Frogboy has said that they where going to release two new Demigods with skills that they thought fill gaps in Demigods current line-up after the release excitement has wound down; If it isn't directly usable in the game it can be changed quite easily (without the screaming of fans that exists for stuff in game), so I wouldn't say that they are going to be the DG final skills without any modification

Just because I feel like posting my idea again. 

I added to Frogboys orginal idea, except added a ton more including mana, cooldowns, abilities, and strong spells to gain interest to the player.  Also added in abilities to open up more play styles.  I hope you all like it, I spend a lot of time doing it.

Name of Demigod: Lachesis.

This name is taken from "The Fates" of Greek Mythology.  Which is the measurer, who choses the lot in life one will have and measures off how long it is to be.

Type of Demigod: General

General description: More of a futuristic wizard.  More of a high powered looking wizard than a traditional one.  Honestly does not matter if it is a mage, sorcerer, wizard, witch, nobody really knows the difference or cares much.

http://images.epilogue.net/users/jae/WarWizard.jpg

Pretty good example, male or female does not matter.  She is not very pretty anyways lol.  Think of a newer Gandalf with a sword and staff.  His sword and staff will be made from elements, so he never really carries both at a time.

Abilities:  Mailny will be focused around elemental type magic.  I know Torchbearer is ice and fire, why not have another mage character fighting for the other side?  Ex-husband and wife fighting it out!  Rofl, just kidding .

Magic form is mainly geared towars magic, Demigod will use staff/range attacks when in this form.  Battle form will focus more on melee attacks and open styles.  If you switch forms, debuffs on enemies will not go away, but buffs on yourself will, buffs from totems will not go away until totem is killed.  This can help to open play style more to change forms more often.

Magic form: Demigods HP and Mana are more than Battle form.  Armor is also reduced.

 Ability 1. 200, 400, 600, 800 mana.  5, 10, 10, 10 second cooldowns. Totems have a set amount of HP.  This helps to prevent spam of them, also helps in strats on where to place them.  Reduced over all %'s, more balanced now.

1.        Set totems that give friendly Demigods 5% more experience in a given area.  (Level 1)

2.        Totems now also give friendly Demigods 10% more HP in a given area. Last 30 seconds. (Level 3)

3.        Totems now also give friendly Demigods 10% more attack damage in a given area. Lasts 30 seconds. (Level 8).

4.        Totems now also give friendly Demigods 10% more armor in a given area. (Level 10)

5.        Totems will give buff to minions as well as friendly Demigods. (Level 16)

Abiilty 2.  300 Mana, 500 mana, 700 mana, 950 mana.  15, 20, 25, 30 second cooldowns.  Mainly used to aid friendly Demigods getting out of range of an enemy or getting someplace under specific conditions.  The last ones mana pool is set just right, if you have 4000 mana, 2000 damage is not much for 5 seconds of twirling while opening yourself to attack.   5 seconds of 20% faster not that much.

1.        Spell: Wind power. Makes friendly Demigods speed 10% faster and armor increased by 200 for 5 seconds.   (Level 1)

2.        Spell: Wind power. Makes friendly Demigods speed 15% faster and armor increased by 400 for 5 seconds.   (Level 3)

3.        Spell: Wind power. Makes friendly Demigods speed 20% faster and armor increased by 600 for 5 seconds.  (Level 9)

4.        Spell: Tornado.  Demigod turns into a still tornado in target location for 5 seconds dealing damage over time equal to half their mana pool.  Smaller units will be hurled into the air.  The tornado grants friendly Demigods in the area Wind Power. (Level 11)

Ability 3.  200 mana, 400 mana, 600 mana, 800 mana. 5, 7, 14, 14 second cooldowns.  The point is to attack the Demigods with this when they are with units next to them. 

1.        Spell: Electric Bolts. Sends 1 electric bolt at an enemy, electric damage will spread to nearby enemies. (Level 1)

2.        Spell: Electric Bolts. Sends 2 electric bolts at an enemy, electric damage will spread to nearby enemies. (Level 3)

3.        Spell: Electric Bolts. Sends 3 electric bolts at an enemy, electric damage will spread to nearby enemies. (Level 8)

4.        Spell: Electric Bolts. Sends 4 electric bolts to an enemy, electric damage will spread to nearby enemies. (Level 12)

Battle form: Geared towards melee combat, armor, strong damage. 

Ability 1.  200, 200, 200, 200 mana.  5, 5, 5, 5 second cooldowns. This ability mainly used to open a range of play styles for this Demigod to each player.  Each time you upgrade, you will lose the previous ability, so this makes the player choose wisely which one they want to go for.  Weakest fusion to the strongest of course.

1.        Melee Fusion: Demigod fuses his/her weapon with the element of wind.  Increasing his attack speed and movement speed by 5%. (Level 1)

2.        Melee Fusion: Demigod fuses his/her weapon with the element of earth.  This increases his/her weapon damage by 10 for every level. (Level 3)

3.        Melee Fusion: Demigod fuses his/her weapon with the element of electricity.  This allows the Demigod to attack multiple units. (Level 5)

4.        Melee Fusion: Demigod fuses hi/her weapon with the element of water.  This allows the Demigod to poison each enemy he attacks. (Like venom spit) (Level 13)

Ability 2, 200, 400, 600, 800 mana, 1000 mana.  5, 10, 15, 15, 25, second cooldowns. This allows the Demigod to actually fight other Demigods in melee combat and opens more options in strategy with friendly Demigods.

1.        Stoneskin: Demigod targets friendly’s or himself/herself to increase armor by 300 for 7 seconds. (Level 2)

2.        Stoneskin: Demigod targets friendly’s or himself/herself to increase armor by 600 for 7 seconds. (Level 6)

3.        Stoneskin: Demigod targets friendly’s or himself/herself to increase armor by 800 for 7 seconds. (Level 9)

4.        Stoneskin: Demigod targets friendly’s or himself/herself to increase armor by 1200 for 7 seconds. (level 13)

5.        Wall of Stone:  Demigod unleashes a powerful Earth spell to turn an enemy to stone and incapacitates them for 5 seconds.  Units or Demigod that is effected by this will not be able to move or take action.  Unable to take damage as well. Wall of Stone replaces Stoneskin abilities. (Level 15)

Ability 3, 100, 300, 600, 1000 Mana. 6, 6, 6, 15 cool downs.  1, 1, 1, 3 second cast times. Similar to ice shower from TB, except the Swift Comet allows for more of an excitement factor.

1.        Meteors: Demigod calls forth a meteor shower from the Heavens to damage enemies dealing 200 AOE damage, as well as reducing armor of any Demigods in the area by 200. (Level 1)

2.        Meteors: Demigod calls forth a meteor shower from the Heavens to damage enemies dealing 400 AOE damage, as well as reducing armor of any Demigods in the area by 400. (Level 5)

3.        Meteors: Demigod calls forth a meteor shower from the Heavens to damage enemies dealing 600 AOE damage, as well as reducing armor of any Demigods in the area by 600. (Level 10)

4.        Swift Comet:  Demigod unleashes a devastating spell calling a comet to deal AOE damage dealing 1000 AOE damage, as well as reducing armor of any Demigods in the area by 800. (Level 15)