I struggled with pornography for a long time. It was something I hated, and something I wished it was near-impossible to find. But just how hard is it to find porn?
Not. Despite the fact that it should be behind an age-gate, many sources of porn run it behind no protection, or minimal. One site is incompatible with firefox, so porn can be accessed without any age-verification.
And age verification? "Are you 18?". That's all. There are a few sites I've visited with full age-gates, but about eighty percent of those I ever went to had no separate age gate or even a visible age-verification system in Firefox.
And how hard is it to accidentally access porn? In a week, I got 2 porn links disguised as normal links, and I got ads for material without soliciting them while browsing on otherwise clean sites.
Filters work about ninety percent of the time, but some pornography does not use names or keywords familiar to filter software, and adding in the lingo for every type of porn is nearly impossible. And filters can often be disabled or worked around, so they may not even be effective.
So, I ask you, do we need a reform in the internet porn? I believe very strongly that we do. It exists, it's practically marketed to minors, and it is addictive and shameful. It causes emotional and psychological damage, and is a pox upon the sight of humanity.
I am glad you got you shit under control but why don't you go on with your merry life and allow others to make their own mistakes. Bubblewrapping the world is not an answer. It is a disease that has spread too wide now to be healed. The evidence is starting to show in the real world. You can't take care of your children forever. Allow them to be free for a change.
If you can't control yourself stay offline. Becuase that's what your addicted to if you fealt the need to blog this.
Human nature can't be protected. People get addicted to all sorts of things. It's not the porn. Ever heard of hoarders, cat ladys, bag ladys, etc? I suppose becuase one person has a problem with saving bags we should eliminate all bags from the world...just to be safe.
I do not frequent porn sites. I am just sick and tired of people projecting their faults on others.
Or....send them bags to NT.
I would rather have the porn.
Porn is against nature. Its really tough to make a law or anything to check it. In fact we can't stop anything on internet as its as complicated as spider web if you try to uncoil, it will break.
Most frequent visitors to these sites are teenagers and in early thirties.
They go there because they want to have a taste of things which are generally considered bad. But what makes them to go there.. some films, friends, growing age and curiosity, attraction towards opposite sex etc.
Yes, but I can help the law be enforced. My hatred? of the porn industry is that it's too easily to get addicted and it is too easy to get it below age.
I don't care what your opinion is, I demand that the law be enforced. If it is not enforced, then these sites should be taken off the internet, or forced not to cater to areas in which the law is violated.
My fault is my own. I was bored, I wanted something to do in my free time. I'm not blaming them. For the first parts of my addiction, I was at sites with age gates. It was merely my fault.
The people why cry the loudest against immoralities such as porn, are often the ones who look at it the most.
Bag it, NT.
@erathoniel: NT is correct to a certain degree.
Sure, responsible adults/parents want to keep porn away from kids.
Unfortunately, who's to define what's what for whichever age?
It's in the nitty gritty (in this case pretty gritty) that things break down.
Stringent Gates are no substitute for responsible parenting (how many here would advocate licensure requirements for parenting, although that's really what's needed?), nor for adequate education, and explaining taboos.
Young people (for that matter, older people as well) remain curious about sex. It is, after all, the engine which drives the dioecious world.
As the twig is bent so groweth the tree (no pun intended)....so, as the song goes..."Teach the children well..."
And spare them the hypocracies. You can't protect people from themselves...you can only educate them to protect themselves.
Look at it this way...while porn is a cheaper date, and you don't have to shave or dress up, you tend to meet fewer folks that way.
what law?
In most countries, there is no law against porn
www stands for world wide web
how do you propose to police it?
Yes, he is correct. I am merely pointing out that the law is not enforced. I'm not saying that the law can be enforced. I am merely warning others.
@ Anthony R: That was uncalled for. Entirely. Continue, and I will blacklist you, as I have done such for less.
The problem is that the law needs to be enforced, or parents have to be more alert, and better warned of these issues.
Make it so that all sites have to sign up on a universally available filter network so that they can be blocked or put past secure age gates in countries in which they are disallowed.
I agree with Night Train (again). I don't think we need more police or more laws, or more finger waggers to tell us what is forbidden. Superman, you asked why people would go to porn sites in the first place? I say, part of the reason is that it's considered bad. I'm a 50-year-old woman, porn has never been any big deal to me; lately I have so much other crap on my mind, it's a chore just to make my head get excited about the things I should get excited about, let alone naked people "doing it" with each other. Quite frankly, when I accidentally stumble on it, I disregard it the same way I do when I see the little lizards on my back porch "doing it." My children (ages 23-27) occasionally look at porn, because some of it is just bizarre and weird. After they coaxed me into looking at 2 of the sites they thought were particularly bizarre, I quit letting them coax me, because some crap just can't be UNseen once it has seen, and seriously....it's not pretty, it's not sexy, it's not a turn-on, it's just stupid and messed up. It's up to everybody else to decide for themselves whether they want to look at something that is stupid and messed up, and if a person is underage...have a freakin' parent police them! If a parent cares, they'll monitor their CHILD'S internet access. If a parent doesn't care, then the kid is going to be seeing some stuff in his/her life regardless of whether the net is policed or not!We don't need more restrictions in this world...we need more conscious decisions made on our own part, rather than being irresponsible and allowing designated law-enforcing personnel dictate for us what is right and what is wrong.
Erathoniel, you said "it is addictive and shameful. It causes emotional and psychological damage, and is a pox upon the sight of humanity." That's your opinion...we all have one. However, I don't want you, or anybody else, telling me or deciding for me what is a pox on humanity. It's not your place to tell me what constitutes free speech--I'm a grown woman, I should have the right to look at porn if I want, and also willfully choose not to pay attention to it, if that's what I want. Obviously, it's not an addiction to me, so who are the addicts to be telling the nonaddicts what they should have access to?Here in the United States, we tried prohibition -- it didn't work. It only makes things worse. The addicts need to get therapy for their addictions, and work out cognitive plans to detox themselves from the substance that is causing them to be nonfunctional and leave the rest of us to experience life the way it unfolds to us individually without consensual criminal restrictions.
I couldn't have put it better, Karen
Karen.
2of3.....saaaay....you sure that nick has to do with birthing order?
To get more indebth information on why internet porn shouldn't be policed, the late Peter McWilliams puts it better than anybody I know right here: http://www.mcwilliams.com/books/aint/307.htm
In all its (legal and consensual) variations, Sex is natural and it is human.
Anyone who tells you otherwise is using fear to control you in order to profit from you, one way or another.
Educate yourself and your children and they'll make good choices without shame and fear.
It's just that simple.
Now go watch your favorite porn and accept you are a human being, just like all the rest of us.
You sir are insane, Go ahead and blacklist me then. You won't catch me crying in my coffee over it.
Addictive? Meh, to some. Shameful? Depends on your own view. Emotional and psychological damage? I don't really see how...with normal porn anyway. I've seen some horrible things in the dark side of porn...but that's usually tucked away behind the normal stuff. You have to have a morbid curiosity to find the traumatizing stuff. As for a pox? Nah...people like watching naked people do naked things.
I don't see the problem with it, really. It's just like anything else in life...you can either choose to utilize it or not. People get addicted to gambling, drugs, alcohol, gaming, food...it's about the individual and self control, not about the accessibility of the chosen activity.
~Zoo
Ah same old lecture people get inahbited of giving at your age auntie! Congrats you got listeners too barring me.
Strange I didn't ask! I just replied myself. Be my answer wrong or right I won't worry because I don't believe in digging a mole out of a hill. Also I believe in typing little as I can't think more as it takes my brain.
Because your ideas simply can't impress me ideas as mine can't you. We could have used nuclear power for only good purposes but we made atom bombs too. Why? Because man is a crazy devil. Why did Adam and Eve ate that apple. We want to know everything as soon as possible.
I am against it because it is against law in my country. I had seen it few time but I had seen many things even earlier.
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Night Gone, Matter Gone
Wherever woman are concerened, the unexpected is bound to happen.
Yup I have a question- are such talks allowed at WC?
Gud-nite, getting late.
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Please edit that reply.
I spent four years controlled by porn. I first was exposed at eight, and I became addicted at twelve. I believe very strongly that it leads to a devaluation of everyone. Even in the less dark material, I saw my view shift to the point that I could no longer talk to a woman professionally or personally. I couldn't look at a woman and truthfully say that I loved her, because I didn't. I just lusted after her. I didn't hold my own will. It was as freely altered by the porn as by me, and I found that I was weak. When I got into darker stuff (not really rape, but fetishes and more, all unnatural) I found that my will was gone. I longed to get home and to the internet, and leave everything behind. I was escaping from life.
And that is why, because at sixteen, I have no relationships with women, and I will have to build all from scratch and work hard to figure out what is true and what is not.
In a week, I got 2 porn links disguised as normal links, and I got ads for material without soliciting them while browsing on otherwise clean sites.
What do you mean by this?
I have been using internet since the past 10 years or more and it never happened with me.
So I doubt if you were on clean sites !!
Can you just name or post links to your so called "clean sites"?
There are no such thing as devils. And man is human...how could he/she be anything else?
I thought the exact same thing at first but I chose accept the OP was being sincere.
A couple of years ago my ex boss's wife saw some porn related spam on his PC. I have never seen someone squirm their way out of it so bad. He even went so far as to call AOL ( yeah that about says it all) to blame them. He swore over and over to his wife that he had never visited a pornsite. One looksie on his company PC told me the truth. Lets just say he likes them very large.
The things people will do to avoid embarrasment is funny as hell.
I learned from my dog training expert that if your dog has a habit (like barking) that is self-rewarding, you must train an opposing behavior (like holding a ball in the dog's mouth) to over-ride and prevent the undesired behavior. Humans are different from the rest of the animal kingdom only in that we have a superior brain, which we can use to train ourselves, just as we would our pets. Conditioning an opposing behavior to extinguish the porn addiction would be a much better solution to internet porn, than to enact more laws and hire more law-enforcement personnel (who would, in turn, actually have to look at those porn sites to determine if they aren't "good" for you or if they violate the law....which means stricter porn laws would corrupt law enforcement officials, and "Net Cop" would be a job that many porn addicts would flock to).Quit blaming the porn and the free access of it for your unhealthy relationship with it. The problem is your chemical makeup...not the existence of porn on the net.
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