When I was a younger man, before I became the old and decrepit 24 year old before you, there was a little-known game not much unlike this one. It was fun, nerdy, made by a small yet very active company (before Microsoft got it, I guess), and had a small, dedicated community of players. Okay, not "Holy crap there are 200 people on ICO at the same time?!" small, but you get the idea. The game was Mechcommander and one of the leagues formed around it went by the name of Steel Command.
The SCL was a heavily role-played league which used Mechcommander as a vehicle to wage an enormous interstellar war between the various Battletech factions (faction websites still exist today, in all their 1998 glory). Factions would fight for territory and resources. They would commit Mechs and other resources to battles, then play out those battles in the game. There was diplomacy and even an enormous map which was manually updated to reflect faction ownership changes (this was back before the web was "dynamic"
I think a league like this would work well in Sins for a few reasons. First of all, it is asynchronous. That is, factions can schedule games or just issue orders ("Explore this planet", etc.) and won't need to randomly have a whole lot of players on at the same time (this is the main reason clans don't work right now). Secondly, Sins is very customizable, which is required for this sort of thing to work. The Map Designer is quick and dirty, but the real power lies in Galaxy Forge (assuming it gets fixed) which allows maps to be custom-tailored to battles. With this customization combined with the fact that different battles can have different supply caps, sizes and so forth, games can be long or short depending on the battle setup and include any number of other variables.
Sins games can be incredibly long, back and forth, intense experiences even though the action isn't necessarily constant -- that's what I love about it. You have to make big decisions -- do I build up and dig in or rush? Do I save that planet being attacked or do I counter? -- which can affect where you are an hour later. But what if the game didn't end in an hour, a day, or a month? What if there were an entire Universe to conquer and not just a star or two at a time?
If there's a game out now that could be used to resurrect the enormous scope and breadth of Steel Command, it is almost certainly Sins. However, this is no minor task and will require dedication and effort from many -- not to mention players! I'm not sure if we have enough people yet, but we'd have to start somewhere. This would be a considerable undertaking and I am already extremely low on free time, so I'm putting this out now to see what sort of interest there is, if any. Please provide feedback!
P.S. If you're wondering who would actually make the site for this, the answer is me. I do it for a living so we've at least got that part covered.
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!
Like what you've read so far? Then check this out!
Okay folks, it seems like we have enough people interested to make an official inquiry here on the boards. The way I see it, we need a minimum of 25 people to start really getting the ball rolling in an official way on this thing. To that end, I have created a form that interested parties should fill out. It shouldn't take more than 30 seconds and will give me a way to keep track of people with serious interest.
One of the questions asks what you want your "role" to be; I have created the following roles with my recommendation of minimum numbers to fulfill in parenthesis (assumes 3 initial factions; one for each race):
Fill out the form here: http://binjured.wufoo.com/forms/sins-league-signup/
Thank you in advance!
(Entrenchment required for membership for the time being; with more players, hopefully we can have two leagues... but that's a dream for now.)
Well i didnt think the forum mattered considering you and xenon told me on this forum what to do, and not to ask you about it on your forum... sorry for the arguing, we had to be in a court-case at school today, lotsa bickering, kinda carried w/ me today
anyways... so i'll talk to you and other members on the other forum ( the 1 on this website i think)
Did you not get the sarcasm?
Samurye.
Yeah our recruitment topic on on this site the SINS site is for specific things like recruitment and such for -Ue_. I just dont want other people who are not interested in us to have to read all that junk about us. LOL.
Why yes, yes I did. But I wanted to cover my ass anyhow
Thanks carbon, i still think its kinda bare, hopefully i can spruce it up some more when i find relevant images and pictures to replace the defaults. I had some issues with the banner as it just wouldnt cooperate with resizing. Oh well, atleast its a start
Is any1 gonna reply back to the post about the friendly-chat-game on saturday, cuz if not we cant really have a game
and btw, i totally forgot about time zones, lol, 12 my time isnt the same as you guy's,
so, its currently, 5:10, and i proposed we have a game on saturday @ 12, and nobody really replied back except NYC and, we cant really have a game, so if you guys can get back to the forum b4 tomorrow i Suppose, we can still have a game, idk if you guys even care so, try to get back to us b4 saturday ( i suppose u will unless u read this on saturday d'oh)
kthxz
"can still have a game" cant* sorry
Yeah, if you need some help with topics and ideas for your forums, hit me up. I tell your some of current sub topics we have. But I do like how you got that picture and such. I need to see if I can get some of that working for us!
I could always use some opinions on the current topics i have up, they are somewhat introductory. I have yet to post our rules and guidelines yet. I do notice you have a detailed post regarding ranks and such, thats something i will certainly do aswell. I think a image banner on your forum would look great, perhaps if you have a UE emblem you can throw in there as well.
Uhg lore always sounds so much better in my head, now I got to type it... neatly!
Yeah Ive read up all you have so far, and it look good. I be happy to talk more about it, Its best to talk about either via MSN or Skype. If your interest I be happy to share my lore thoughts and ideas with you and how I created what we have up now. Just PM me so I can send you my MSN and/or Skype info! Great work so far!!
Sorry guys but i dont think ill be able to make it for the game tomorrow afternoon, i will be out of the house early and i dont think i can make it back for the 12pm game, i will ofcourse free to play later that evening if people are still up for a game. Once again sorry for everyone who is participating tomorrow.
Well, i dont think there is gonna be a game, considering it was on such short notice, and we havent got the time zones figured out, maybe another day
The day is young and Im still up for game, midnight or something is fine with me, im on the east coast of the US if that helps with timezones, can honestly say I forget the proper terminology
EVERYONE!!! ESPECIALLY YOU CLAN LEADERS!
Binjured has spoken to me and due to time restrictions will not be able to attend for a little while!
Neverthelless he sends his best wishes and tells us that we have a GREEN LIGHT TO START!!!!!!!
He only asks that we set up a temporary forum and start kicking with basic rules etc! And that we can expand as we go!
So I say..*takes a deep breath*
LET'S ROCK & ROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SORROWSWORN TO BATTLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BTW were up to 20 people... so more than enough
I will answer the call and fight alongside you. For now.
We still need to get time zones figured out before we can have any type of battle/friendly game
Hum...I think I can do something about that!
Hey I just wanted to lend my support. I think this sounds pretty badass.
Is the site going to progress map site (where updates on territory changes are posted) going to be made public for spectators? I'd love to get involved, but I seriously doubt my ability to consistently commit time towards it.
Also, are the respective factions only going to play a single race?
I think a progressive update regarding territories gained and lost between each faction is a fantastic idea and i think will become a reality once the games start rolling along. Leaders of each faction will probably have to agree on number of planets as well as how many star systems will exist. If anyone has played EndWar, that is something i want to achieve.(although not as complex since obviously im not a game dev)
Im more than willing to work on that with anyone else that can lend a hand, updating and maintaining something like that will require cooperation.
I was thinkin that since day one, like a, galaxy,universal map w/ system names, advantages for gaining systems and an event monitor
That idea was already given and will be applied to not worry!
I'm the map designer and once Carbon sends me his schematic for the grand "battle plan". I'll recreate it in galaxy forge!!
As for starters I would make the map small..Ie 100 planets total...just to get the feel going! And once everyoine is accustomed to it we can "magically" add more planets to the struggle!
-ShadowMastiff2468-
I make some maps in the in game map-maker thing. I can't do galaxy forge though, and I don't know how to upload or anything.
Gfy Sm and Carbon , But hey, can you guys post some of your maps, and possibly show us ALL the maps, because im sure some of us would like to put feedback into how the universe is gonna look
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