When I was a younger man, before I became the old and decrepit 24 year old before you, there was a little-known game not much unlike this one. It was fun, nerdy, made by a small yet very active company (before Microsoft got it, I guess), and had a small, dedicated community of players. Okay, not "Holy crap there are 200 people on ICO at the same time?!" small, but you get the idea. The game was Mechcommander and one of the leagues formed around it went by the name of Steel Command.
The SCL was a heavily role-played league which used Mechcommander as a vehicle to wage an enormous interstellar war between the various Battletech factions (faction websites still exist today, in all their 1998 glory). Factions would fight for territory and resources. They would commit Mechs and other resources to battles, then play out those battles in the game. There was diplomacy and even an enormous map which was manually updated to reflect faction ownership changes (this was back before the web was "dynamic"
I think a league like this would work well in Sins for a few reasons. First of all, it is asynchronous. That is, factions can schedule games or just issue orders ("Explore this planet", etc.) and won't need to randomly have a whole lot of players on at the same time (this is the main reason clans don't work right now). Secondly, Sins is very customizable, which is required for this sort of thing to work. The Map Designer is quick and dirty, but the real power lies in Galaxy Forge (assuming it gets fixed) which allows maps to be custom-tailored to battles. With this customization combined with the fact that different battles can have different supply caps, sizes and so forth, games can be long or short depending on the battle setup and include any number of other variables.
Sins games can be incredibly long, back and forth, intense experiences even though the action isn't necessarily constant -- that's what I love about it. You have to make big decisions -- do I build up and dig in or rush? Do I save that planet being attacked or do I counter? -- which can affect where you are an hour later. But what if the game didn't end in an hour, a day, or a month? What if there were an entire Universe to conquer and not just a star or two at a time?
If there's a game out now that could be used to resurrect the enormous scope and breadth of Steel Command, it is almost certainly Sins. However, this is no minor task and will require dedication and effort from many -- not to mention players! I'm not sure if we have enough people yet, but we'd have to start somewhere. This would be a considerable undertaking and I am already extremely low on free time, so I'm putting this out now to see what sort of interest there is, if any. Please provide feedback!
P.S. If you're wondering who would actually make the site for this, the answer is me. I do it for a living so we've at least got that part covered.
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!
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Okay folks, it seems like we have enough people interested to make an official inquiry here on the boards. The way I see it, we need a minimum of 25 people to start really getting the ball rolling in an official way on this thing. To that end, I have created a form that interested parties should fill out. It shouldn't take more than 30 seconds and will give me a way to keep track of people with serious interest.
One of the questions asks what you want your "role" to be; I have created the following roles with my recommendation of minimum numbers to fulfill in parenthesis (assumes 3 initial factions; one for each race):
Fill out the form here: http://binjured.wufoo.com/forms/sins-league-signup/
Thank you in advance!
(Entrenchment required for membership for the time being; with more players, hopefully we can have two leagues... but that's a dream for now.)
I like those ideas..personnaly, what I think we should do is schedule a time and date adn we ALL unite in the ICO Sins lobby and talk this out!
What we want..what we plan on adding in terms of rules,etc!
That way it's live (not day by day with forum), we get faster answers and can start working on them right away!
Karma for the initiative ? loool
Here is my 2 cent. Since You, me and Shadow are the first faction leaders, its our job to create not only our faction lore but if needed fill in some race lore. Down the road if other faction pop up they will have to write their lore around what groundwork we create. It may help to know each others lore we are created to help synergy lore wise. Personaly I find it hard to have just one faction control an entire race, but I dont know how your writing your lore. I didnt plan for -Ue_ to be the only TEC faction, we are just a small part of the bigger TEC, and I think our lore shows that. End the end its your call. Since your the first Just like TEC was for me and Vasari will be for Shadow.
[quote who="Desamator" reply="23" id="2214604"]So, to get this up and running, we need people, maps, and leaders... uhh soo... are you proposing we simply play this on ICO orrr... what..? Summer is just about here so i dont think people will have scheduling conflicts, Should we( yes i think i want to be in on this , TEC ALL THE WAAYY AHHH) make a website with a calender for each faction with different members posting requests for dates, different chatrooms, a galactice map, ect..?And another important decision, should we make it only Entrenchment owners, or should we include a on Original Sins owners, i dont think it will be very, uhh... official-like, to have both, 1 or the other.. Lastly, If would like to contact me, i keep a close watch on my email USUALLY, so, if you have anything to add its,Desamator@austin.rr.com, kthxbye
You should read back on some other post, how this work was basicly described awhile back. Might help to google Steel Command and such to see if you find any old pages. What we are working on is an adaptation of that league to fit into the SINS universe. As for how things will run, in theory there will be a main league page and each faction will be in charge of their own site for keeping their members informed. -Ue_ has our fourms already set up. But on each faction I suggest you head over to each factions Recruitment topic and to see more about each.
My lore so far which Ill gladly send to you by email should you like, was just filling in the lore gaps that the manual lacked etc. Originaly I was going to act as sort of an embodiment of the government I had created for the advent and my members were to be the various subfactions inside the advent Ive changed that Im no longer the embodiment but and arm, Ive taken the role of being an inquisitor / marshall of the empress (whom runs the advent) sort of like her own personnal gaurd and will. And I still left what members I have to be the various sub factions just that I monitered them and watch their progress and do w/e I deemed necessary for the sake of the "Unity" and the queen. Note: Alot of my influence is from the warhammer universe should you guys have ever delved into that lore, think of me as the Inquistion whom watches the space marines for taint etc and despense justice in the name of the emperor. I watch the other factions in the advent and I assist them In matters deemed appropriate. Dunno how you've set up the hierarchy but this is how I went with it. Note again that this is how I took it from reading the post etc. so...
(And for you hardcore lore fanatics in warhammer, dont chew me for the ugly role I pictured the inquisition, cause I can only imagine what youll lunge at me for.)
I KNOW WHAT THE VASARI ARE RUNNING AWAY FROM!!!!
Theyre're MOTHERS!!! lol
Desamator
if you want to be in a TEC faction there is one set up.
Visit http://sins.blacklotushq.com/index.php.
this is our forms and will let you start the joining procedure.im not sure so dont quote me, but i do think that our faction is the leader when it comes to rules and such as we have had quite some time to think things trough. i would really like you to join and add to out convos about diffrent topics.
cant wait to hear from you,
The Unified Exporers
I was wondering perhaps that when there is enough free time among all of us who is participating in this project, for us to get together and run a friendly FFA or team game and just have fun and exchange ideas between each faction.
Also, perhaps this might be a rather long project i would take on but i used to do a little drawing here and there using mostly either Adobe and Manga Studio. I figure when this project fully takes off and each story from each faction collide i would attempt to adapt them into some sort of a visual novel (i.e comic book?) I havent exactly fully thought this through yet and its been some time ive sat down and drew up anything so...yeah, just an idea i suppose. Yes? No? hmmm
I like that idea! I really do, a SINS comic book with our own lore in it! You have my vote and support! And a good friendly game would be fun. It be great to get to know everyone not just my faction! Maybe we can set up a time next month to get together?
Well you already know me...
But hat the hell..LET'S DO THIS (damn must have said that sentence like 10 times since the start of this thread ).
BTW new mod on the way! Will rock your worlds blind
We could attempt some role playing aspects if you had your lore up to par. But the actual league will have to wait till bingured.
Hey Carbon Xenon, I went ahead and set up an acc. on your forums for UE, but it said it needed some kinda varification, since you are so low on member ( like 3) can i just go ahead and join? Can you contact me about it via email please... or this forum,
Desamator@austin.rr.com thanks
Up to par...never realised we were playing golf
If it isnt too much to ask, i have found a Magnificent!!!!!- mod that we could make mandatory, ( you can play with mods multiplayer, havent tried), it makes gameplay really cool!! If you're interested then look at it at-
http://www.moddb.com/mods/the-last-stand watch the video in the text to see some gameplay...
basically it adds a more dynamic battles system, so ships dont just sit there, and pound at each other until 1 blows up and it adds a fragmentation, IE the ship pieces actually stay around for a while,(just watch the vid )
tell me what ya think, its a great mod in my opinion, hope you dont have problems, and if you guys wanna stick to original entrenchment i cant blame ya,
thanks
Our fourms are for -Ue_ members only. The public sections are already viewable. If you want to join -Ue_ please view in our public section on how our recruitment works and our rules.
Lol, fair enough. LOL, Nice come back.
We need to stick with Entrenchment. Its already hard enough to get people involved with what we got now. If you add a mod it further reduces the intrest. I for one would not play if we use Last Stand. While it is a cool mod, its not for me. My vote for a mod is Distant Star, but im bias. LOL. Anyhow, Im glad your interested but we already have the basic game idea in the bag. But dont let me discourage you from making ideas and suggestions!
For now lets get this going first before we touch any mods...
And as for the friendly game Im up for it, though sadly I'm a noob, be good for practice.
Just got to set a time.
THE DOME MOD!
I can be considered a noob as the only games I play are with my mod
Ya know... nvm about the mod... its cool for singleplayer... anyways... I think, binjured should have a pool party to ummm "celebrate" the forthcoming of the universe?
How bout, Saturday, 12ish? that sounds good to any1? any1 have any other date proposals?
If you're interested let us all know
AND!!! we need a designated host'er
Regardless on the level of play, its all for fun, i play alot with local friends but im sure my strategy and pace isnt "up to par" with most of the players over ICO. Anyway, this saturday sounds good to me, 12 noon you mean? or 12 midnight, im good with either time.
12 noon
"When a person approaches a member of our -Ue_ with the intention of joining, or if someone is approached by a member of our -Ue_, that request should be forwarded to the a Paragon or . From that point on, the following proceedure will be followed regardless of the individual's connections and friendships. 1) He, she or they will then contact the individual with a request for basic information." - From the your faction forum-carbon, you guys have a joining system, but your system tells me to go to a leader, and the leader tells me to refer to the system, if its really this troubling, i can join a different faction, hopefully you guys can pull it together, i'd like to be in the -Ue_ >.<
Well sir, Contacting one of us is done via PM or email or our recruitment topic https://forums.sinsofasolarempire.com/346132 . This is were this should be discussed. Not taking up space in the league topic.
I take offence when someone tells me that I dont have this together, I have spend many many hours putting together our lore, rules, ranks and all other -Ue_ related things. We ARE the most organized and put together faction out there! (sorry to Shadow and Natuilae, This is ment to be no offence to either of you. I know You both have been busy or just joined. I aplologize ahead of time if I hit a sore spot with that comment.) Anyhow, maybe you can understand now how our join process works.
Now Im off to add a sentence into our rules.
What a horrible insult! Die! Die in a fire! DIEEEEEEEE!!!!!
Samurye.
Like I said it wasnt an insult, its only what Ive publicly seen and what I know all we have done. For all I know, you could have a huge section of lore thats not public yet. Again its not insult its an observation.
Its okay carbon, i dont think anyone sees it as a insult lol. We all have other obligations to tend to so its normal for the progress of each faction to somewhat slow. On another note, i have created a place for all of those who are and wishes to join the advent faction "The Illumina": The Council Of Unity
Yeah, I know that. The only reason our is as far as it is cuz Ive had alot of this done before this league was thought up.
On a better note CONGRATS!!!! on getting your Council up!!!!! I must say I like yours better with that picture and such! Look forward to seeing more!
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