Ok.
1- Many people think rook is O.P
I d'ont think this is true. Is a little bit too powerful now with a 2100 Hammer damage. (should be 1800 imo).
Also there is a radius bug with the hammer. at this distance normally (lets say "I" is a player ) I the player should not receive the full domage. PLayer should only receive the 800DMG instead of the 2100.
Another way to evade the hammer and I dont see people doing it while its the best way to avoid damage is to run straight at the rook. There is no radius bug with this so when running at the rook or a little higher than the hammer or lower (just don't be under it) you wont receive full damage. Escaping is the easiest way for a rook to have a successful 100% damage hit with the hammer (unless you have been stun by the boulder far far away but since there is a radius bug its better to avoid running away in straight line.
2- PLEASE PLEASE don't get yourself voluntary directly under my hammer PLEASE!!! I'm laughing at this every time and then the player say OMG so O.P
Come-on !! manage your character movement correctly.
3- Calculate my cold-down. once you can do that, you can predict when I'm gonna launch a boulder. when you think its about time I lunch one, walk over me. Since the boulder work on a direction, it will be hard for me to lunch and I will have high chances to fail.
If you can successfully follow this, youll see rook is not that much O.P anymore.
4- Laggy player have high chance for killing me. I can't tolerate lag I play all bad when it's laggy
so for GpG, they just need to correct hammer radius and lower a bit the hammer damage and all will be perfect imo.
Feel free to comment friendly (I may be wrong about Rook not being O.P) so feel free to tell me in a polite way.
Have fun killing me
Rook is OP
get some boots of speed + wand of speed and you'll catch up to practically any1. (Also there's a favor item that i use that increases speed if you want to count that)
Just because its theoretically possible to dodge the boulder doesn't mean you will. Most of the time someone is playing offensive, I TP in, stun them, Drop the hammer and then (if they're not dead) hit wand of speed and chase them down.
I also straight up lol at unclean beasts who try to take me. Haven't seen one yet that can even legitamately match up against me.
Random guy hit it right on the head (If you're willing to read his text block).
Accidently posted again =O
DO you guys know what O.P mean? Its meean it is Highly / stupidly unbalanced. Rook is not at this point. Is a bit more powerfull than other demigods and have a bug that is helping him. So is not that O.P
O.p for me mean is unkillable enven when controlled by a noob. And thats is not the case! I can take UB and kill other people using rooks online so thats why I laught at people saying Rook is O.P
Hes just the more powerfull demigod for now with a little bug thats help him.
ANd Im sure a verry good regulus player (who know a little bit how to dodge and not getting himseft voluntary under the hammer) can kill him easy because he's ranged.
I disagree. OP just means overpowered; I think the word that fits your definition is broken, but you're right; I don't think that Rook is broken at all.
But Rook is overpowered, in his way; he DOES deal too much damage, he IS too fast, and some of his abilities DO need a tweak or two.
Demigod is not a 1v1 game. Especially when you are playing a general like you are.... I saw you playing like an assasin with it. But I heard you are changing play style soo it may come good in the end.
Mainly it is not, but early in game, when fighting for a flag, it is a 1 vs 1.
Just done a 1 vs 1 with Wagnard Rook and I win....
Hey everyone Flurus (regulus) was able to kill my rook. How can that be?? Im I not supposed to be O.P ???? so for now Regulus is O.P lol muahahah!
I think alot of the issue is that people have had these legendary experiences with Rook. I had one game where a level 15 Rook was able to hold one of our portals against my Reg and my ally's QoT for a ridiculously long time. Two of us at our crystal couldn't beat off one Rook, and if we weren't careful he'd kill us. At our crystal. We ended up winning that game, but it still leaves a lasting impression...
Rook is not broken. His speed needs a very small nerf. His health might need a small nerf, and you can bump hammerslam down to 1800 dmg. Increase viability of towerbuild. Make trebuchet worth getting. There, Rook is fine now.
I'm not surprised that Regulus beat Rook 1 v 1, and I'm guessing there was alot of double-sniping from the crystal ^^
No staff of renewal used, I play minecity..... but he lost by stategie manly
Well my lasting impression was when I was sedna, and I couldn't get with 2 feet of my troops without having Rook slap me to death and maybe boulder roll me when I was in mid spell. Than hammer slam and bam I'm dead. 2 fricking hits to kill me. It made me afraid to do a spell around him, and since he'd win in a 1v1. I stayed away from me. When me and two of my allies tried to kill a Rook like 2 levels above us and he killed 2 of us than tele'd out. Never have I ever seen any other Dg come even remotely doing that good. It was a massacer. With like 7000 health we couldn't kill him before he killed all of us.
Well several people are saying he's not op then somwhere else in their same post they are giving a list of small nerfs
I don't think any DG needs a dramatic buff/nerf, apart from generals with their minions.
Totally agree with Ke5trel for the rook balance. Thoses number seem quite good.
Lets forget this O.P word and all just say hes a bit too strong.
Problem solved.
p.s I also think regulus mines are a little bit too strong too
My thoughts on this are simple; if you can see them (and use a ranged attack on them) you should be able to kill them.
Any AoE/ranged attack should be able to do this; boulder roll, Rook's Hammer radius, QoT's thorns...
That would help muchly.
They were a trick on beta 2 to shoot on regulus mine, didnt try on this beta yet
I disagree that generals are tend to be weak. I think that assassins are more powerfull in the begin of the game, but the generals are more powerfull in the end of the game. Just because a general can't take an assassin in the begin of the game, does not mean he is underpowered. You have to look to the bigger picture. If you have a Sedna with 8 yeti's, 4 minotaurs, 4 siege archers, 4 monks (army of 20!) the whole situation changes. You can even buy much better minions. I think you (can) become stronger than an assassin. Yes even Oak and QOT! You can very easy cap a flag and attack during the same time with a general. That is a BIG advantage. Generals tend to be a little bit harder to play. But in the hands of a good player, they stand very strong.
To be honest, I think that most demigods are pretty good and pretty balanced. Maybe with some minor tweaks here and there. I agree with Wagner that the Hammer skill should be nerfed a little bit in damage.
I just lost a game where I was a Rook with Staff of Renewal and so was my opponent, Wagnard. Therefore it seems clear to me that neither Rook nor Staff of Renewal are OP
I'm with u Rasgriz. yes u can dodge boulder roll but with no other DG do u have to do that much to survive, and even without roll he wins.
great reply random guy.
I think Rook can be a tiny bit OP. I think any Demigod that can kill a Demigod in one hit (Hammer Slam...which can be easily used if a boulder stun hits them...and the boulder is not that easy to dodge at times) is probably too OP. OP = Over Powered, and I think Rooks Power can be over the top compared to other Demigods at tunes,However, he maybe just needs a small nerf like not being able to get 8k hp in a match and hammer slam doing 1.8k damage or so like kestrel mentioned somewhere. Then its fine I dont want rook being too nerfed down, or he will be useless to play with.As do other skills like snipes cooldown...should be about 15 seconds imo.
I agree with some nerfs like less damage for hammer slam, less, health and slower. I say slower because if u go back to the original idea he was supposed to be this slowly walking castle than can put out massive damage and is a great seiger. Right now he's just as fast as everyone which I think is a funny sight watching Rook run. Oh and hammer slam bug fixed.
Wagnard thinks rook isn't OP because hes having to much fun raping everyone with hammer slam. Play another demigod besides regulus against a decent rook player and come back with your thoughts Wagnard. I am not trying to be an ass but if you haven't played somebody thats a decent rook player with Unclean beast, oak, sedna, QoT then you don't understand how OP rook is.
sedna have HUGE problems to fight rook,
actually, you cant even get close or you die
main problem is... its nearly impossible to dodge the boulder, when you try to evade and move left/right, your body is longer with a long tail, so its come close to the tail and you get stun,
same problem with the hammer, your tail is a problem, even if you run inside the rook, your tail will most likely kill you
your only option is the AoE silence to prolong the inevitable, your death
also, if bounce interupt was working, ist may help, but still , its not possible to damage him alot whiel timing your skills to counter him
also, our hp is so low early, when he can stun with some decent hammer upgrade, he can truly stun/hamme kill 1 shot at some point
and if he have the staff of renewal, well leave the game lol
well wagnard first was mainly usign rook in the first beta,
then, a some beta update rook got way weaker, so he took the beast in the previous beta because its was easy to 1 shot peopel with the dmg buff and artifact
now, beast seem to be lower again, and rook OP, so taken rook again
go figures
of course hes a good rook, no doubt, since he play it alot. when a player is good as his class and understand how its work, and its tend to be more powerfull than others, now its becoming OP
thats all
and wagnard, we dont care about what you think OP mean for you.
OP mean 1 thign only, Overpower, thta mean sighlty stronger to unkillable, its dont only mean stronger to the max
learn the terms plz
and remember the fire mage last update? i was raping face with you and you called it OP when i was playing it, while alot of other people would be "ordinary" at it
but ,even is my fire mage was a bit OP, flurus regulus would kill me 1v1
the same thing apply to your match with flurus here, reg vs rook
OP aint only in 1v1, its OVERALL we are talkign about
I dont play with the O.P character. Rook was totally useless in the end of beta1 NO ONE was playing with him.
I play with he character gaming style I prefert the most.
BTW almost all people play ordinary (like you said with the mage) with the rook.
There are many great features available to you once you register, including:
Sign in or Create Account
