This is it. This is the post that I hope will jumpstart not only the Forums, but also the Metaverse and every gamers interest in Galactic Civilizations II. Please take the time to read it entirely - I can guarantee that most of you will find your passion for GalCiv2 renewed with a great vigor.
I have been thinking lately about the current state of the GalCiv2 universe. My deduction is this: the forums are neglected and are not as full of life as they have been in the past. The Metaverse, once a great source of fun and excitement for gamers, is now in shambles, with hardly anyone ever posting a game to it anymore. 95% of all MV empires are unused and abandoned. Finally, the passion and love for Galactic Civilizations II has died down. It used to be that every day every hour, there would be dozens of posts, and dozens of games being logged into the MV. Those were the days when we all took pride in this game and in this site.
Unfortunately, those days seem to have passed us by. People are moving on to different games and getting bored with GalCiv2. They have forgotten what an incredible accomplishment this game is and what an awesome, creative, helpful, and enjoyable tool the GalCiv2 forums are. They have forgotten how great it felt to hit the "Submit" button after finishing a Metaverse game. The point of this post is to attempt to renew the passion and love for this great game in the hearts of all of its fans and supporters.
I am by far not the best, most experienced, or most well-known player of this game. I am a relatively new player with alot to learn. But I believe I excel in one thing that many of the most experienced players are lacking in: Passion for the game. Take a moment and think about what it felt like when you played your first ever game of Galactic Civilizations. Yes, for many of you, that was a VERY long time ago, but still try. Remember your feeling of immense excitement when you first saw this website. It was bustling with avid gamers and there were countless numbers of players and posts, not to mention links that took you all over the site. How great was it to join (or make) your first Metaverse Empire? It had to feel pretty good, right? Remember those great times - they weren't that long ago.
Stardock achieved so much with this incredible game. I cannot begin to give them enough credit. They succeeded in creating a game that finally let you "go to the stars." They created not one, not two, but twelve (!!!) different alien races, each of which had its own unique history and purpose in the galaxy. Don't forget that Stardock also managed in creating possibly the most intelligent AI in the entire gaming world. If you were about to play you're first game, and you thought to yourself, "Well, I had better ramp the difficulty up to 'Suicidal' since the normal settings are probably too easy." I'm going to bet that you learned your lesson VERY quickly on why you couldn't have that mindset with this game.
Remember the first time that you ever went to the forums. You took a quick look around and you were able to deduce that this is one dedicated, helpful, and creative group of gamers. You saw post after post where a veteran gamer would be helping out a beginner with a question that was extraordinarily simple, yet seemed so hard for that person at the time. You probably had some of those beginner questions yourself, too. No matter how simple the question, however, the veterans would never fail to give all the help that they could. Friendships that you never thought were possible just because of a game were formed through the forums. New ideas for how to make the next expansion were formulated, and people even began to come up with their own creative versions of the game called Mods.
Remember the first time you ever joined or created an MV empire. You were suddenly part of a great group of friends. You were immersed in empire to empire rivalries. Yet, no matter how big the rivalry; no matter what empire you were on; you guys were all one big group of friends, united by a single game.
Unfortunately, those "glory" days seem to have passed us by. I believe, however, that they can come back. That's what I'm trying to do - bring them back. So what if there are no new expansions for GalCiv2. In a couple years GalCiv3 is going to come out, AND GalCiv2 New Frontiers is going to be created even sooner then that, so don't worry. But in the meantime - make a Mod, or, if you can't, find someone who knows how and ask them to join you in creating a Mod. Unite your ideas with his or her skills, and create your own version of the game. The options for what you can create are endless. If you don't want to create a Mod, and you're just looking for a new way to play the game, just go to the library and download one of the hundreds of Mods available. It's easy, and they're free.
If you are playing a game of GalCiv2, and you think that you're current game is extra-special, then create an AAR (After Action Report) and post it in its respective site. Share your experiences with others and let them enjoy your game as much as you did. Don't forget to include screenshots!
Be a part of the Metaverse. This is an incredible achievement made by Stardock. It is a fantastic way to make new friends and be a part of something different. Try and make the top ten, dominate the galaxy, or just play to play. You can make your own empire, get all of your friends to join, and corsair through the galaxy, battling other empires for that coveted 1st Place medal. You can even create and post your own background story and ship style for your empire. None of the default ships seem to fit your race? Make a Mod of them yourself, or have someone in your empire do it for you. The MV is an incredible part of GalCiv2.
Now here is my list of things that you can do to make this website thrive again:
Since I am fairly certain that this post is taking up quite a bit of your time and space, I'm going to wrap it up with one final note.
This game is incredible and all of its fans are incredible people, too. You guys were smart enough to recognize a good game and get it. Good for you. Now make the experience that you get from this game even more incredible by being active on this website. This is the make or break moment for this game. All of you guys hold the future of this game and this website and this incredible group of friends in your hands. Please make this future one to remember.
Finally, any comments and replies that you guys have would be greatly appreciated. I hope to see many more active users on this website in the future to come. I am also going to include a list of different threads that I have made on the GalCiv2 forums concerning the various "Jumpstart" projects of mine. Thanks you very much for bearing with me throughout this long post. And yes - I know what you're thinking. This guy is the absolute King of Long-Winded Posts. Best Regards now and forever.
~ Cypher ~
List of Threads for "Project Jumpstart"
Not only the forum, it seems the Wiki is also not up to date (yet?). I also missed the search function and it was a real pain to find out about changes in ToA and 2.0 if you didn't follow the beta versions.
Now having my first game finished (last game before: 1.2 beta1, 5/29/2006) I am impressed how well the unique tech trees, different planets, spionage, the new combat rules and all the balancing tweaks work out. I was afraid of something more like a sidestep, but there are big improvements. While I never play the campaigns I have to try out severel tech trees and strategies now, I am very pleased.
On the metaverse, I really don't care about high score professionals. I can't tell why, but it feels completely different to me playing "offline", good games are there to have their scores submitted. I know this doesn't make any sense.
@ puntarenas: I think it makes sense just fine. And yes, the new tech trees are very cool, and the new strategies you have to come up with to play with the tech trees are cool, too. Thanks for the reply. Best Regards.
@ puntarenas: BTW, nice score you logged today. I see you played as the Altarians - nice choice. I think you'll find the Altarian tech tree to be very similiar to the Drath tech tree if you play as them. A key difference is in the Super Abilities that each race gets, along with the Drath's War Profiteering bonuses. On the other hand, the Altarians get quite a few unique techs if you choose Good as your ethical alignment after researching Xeno Ethics. They don't get anything race-specific if you go Neutral or Evil, though. Best Regards.
Sorry for the triple-post. I'm just bumping this back to the top so that some new players that come by might have a chance to see it. Best Regards.
Thanks for the post, Cypher. Great to see that people are still enthusiastic about this game. I have played the game numerous times, but never really mastered it. I've set it aside for months at a time, but I am always drawn back by the feeling that I might have had an insight into how the ecomomy really works in practice - and how I can finally grow my empire at a good and sustainable rate.
Even though I've learned quite a bit, I still feel like a beginner - I simply cannot match the AI's growth rate on the more intelligent settings.
Also, I've never gotten involved with the community, tried mods, or metaverse. I think you've inspired me to do so, though.
Well, I'm new to this community, and I haven't had the chance to try out the Metaverse as of yet. I'm a modder at heart, and can tell you that I am interesting in possibly working with the shipbuilder. I've noticed the "Show off your ship designs 2007/2008" threads, and am amazed at some of the work yall do. (Is there a Show off your ship designs 2009 thread yet?)
looks like your efforts are bringing people out of the woodwork, cypher.
(puts on a fake brittish accent) good show!
@ sevenwarlocks: Thank you very much for the reply. It's much appreciated. I think it's great that you'll get a bit involved with the community - even though this website was created initially just for playing the game and learning about the game, I believe it has evolved over time into a site where you can also have some friends. So much has come from one game that I believe that we owe the game its continued popularity. Thanks alot for the reply and Best Regards.
@ Audiogoose45: Welcome to the community! I think it's great that there will be another modder among us. Also - I don't believe that there is a "Show off Your Ship Designs '09", and seeing as Stardock hasn't been too active lately in updating the forums here, I think that it might be up to us gamers to make an '09 forum post. If you would like me to, I will gladly do whatever I can to make that happen, though I would prefer making it a sticky, which as of now I am unsure on how to do that. Any info would be helpful (from anyone in general). Again - great to have a new player here. Welcome and Best Regards.
@ dystopic: Yeah, I'm actually a little bit surprised on how well things have gone over, but I'm very happy that my little project here is getting people back into the game. Thanks for the reply and Best Regards.
@Cypher: Thank you for the welcome. All it takes to get a thread started is for someone to just simply start one, with getting it starting by posting pics of their own, and possibly some tips for the new guys. As for the sticky, I would personally start the thread and then pm a moderator, as they are the ones with that capability. I enojoyed surfing through the 08 and 07 threads, and an 09 thread would be awesome!
@ Audiogoose45: Thanks for the tip on getting the sticky started. I ask around a bit and see if one of the moderators will set up an '09 thread. Thanks again. Best Regards.
You're not the only one still rocking on the Gerontocrats' front porch. I got a game in last month, and so did Captain Yar. Madsko posted one yesterday.
Re the scoremonsters, I suggest you give the AltMeta another try. You're #1 in our empire over there, probably because scores age out faster than on the official MV. You're also #47 out of 410 overall, which ain't nothin' to shake a stick at.
I like that AltMeta better because it has 6 ranking ladders that sort folks out based on map size and win types--I still find war wins basically boring. When I had more time to play, I managed to spend some time in the Top 10 for Civ-Universal (biggest maps, non-war wins), and that was satisfying when it didn't make me feel weird for caring about scores at all.
Whoa!!
Another Gerontocrat still kicking here!
I'm into playing Immense maps now, so it may take me awhile to finish and submit a game, roughly speaking a month or so.
I submitted one back in Nov. '08 and began another almost right away in Dec. and should be finished that one soon enough.
For me, score just represents a barometer of personal performance, it's the whole role playing part of the game that draws me in mostly (even more so with the ToA expansion & updates).
The Meta/AltMeta is a nice touch and enables me to keep track of that performance somewhat.
I believe there are still a few of us contributing on a regular basis but like all empires, there is a reduction in active members who regularly play the Meta/AltMeta.
Hey guys - sorry, I don't mean to interject into any Gerontocrat politics - I'm just bumping this thread back to the top so that it might get noticed a bit more. Best Regards.
there probably wasn't any need to apologize cypher. pretty soon they'll be talking about the best creamed corn they've ever had, and they'll have forgotten your interjection ever happened.
I don't know why, but I find that comment absolutely hilarious!
It's because dystopic understands better than most young'uns that he'll be one of us eventually, at least if he wants a long life and gets close to what he wants
i like to think that i'm simultaneously young and old at heart, regardless of my actual age. it's that whole middle age thing i'd rather avoid. of course what i'd like to think bears no necessary relationship to what actually is.
A once great philosipher said to me:- Growing old is inevitable, growing up is optional.
the original quote was "Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional," at it was said by Chili Davis, a Jamaican-born baseball player (so i assume you were using the term "once great philosopher" loosely). When did you meet him?
actually I just saw it on the back of a bikey's jacket . But the point is it's so true. You may grow old, but doesn't mean you have to act it.
By the way, i've does some thinking and I reckon that forum games would probably liven this place up. just throwing in segestions for keeping the forums alive.
Cypher, I wouldn't worry too much about the game or forums. Look what happens when a good thread gets started; you've gotten a lot of responses already. The reason for the slow down is that there are fewer NEW players, so the questions that get asked are fewer and farther between. Most of the older players are still around but just don't have as much to talk about. Yes, there are a few guys that we don't see anymore or just not enough but I still see a lot of the guys that answered all of my questions when i was new.
As for the dead empires, I think a lot of it has to do with people having additional characters that are used more and in the new empires. When I started playing, the Galactic Diplomats were on top. They haven't left the MV, but a lot of them are now in the Tyranny of Evil or that Cat empire (jk Kzinti).
I can see why some would shy away from the MV. Looking at some scores and numbers of games played. But I play for a personal best, with a high score always a goal but not so much that I stretch the end of my game out. My playing time is so limited I need to just get it ended so I can start my next. I think other people should just play for that but still post to the metaverse, if nothing else it keeps a record of all of your past games. However, if all of you would stop posting for about 6 months I can make it into the to 25...maybe. My goal is to get into the top 100 right now. Wish there was a medal.
I think Dystopic is just afraid that we old men keep black hole eruptors in the handles of our canes... Cream corn... BAH!!! ... ummm what interjection?
Some interesting points of view - overwhelmingly the concensus is that galatic civ 2 has been around since the wheel.
However I live in the UK, (I know, I know, ... someone has to) and despite being aware of this game for a while Twighlight is the first and only copy of the game to reach retail outlets.
As I'm one of the strange few who doesn't like purchasing items from abroad over the internet (I did mention I was English - probably something to do with it - us island folk are a weird lot) I have only recently purchased it - perhaps others are the same. Maybe this is a European wide case.
So perhaps you will see more activity as you so dearly wish.
big PS. Any of you experts willing to give the clueless savages (in particular, me) a hand I would appreciate any replies to my recent post - namely "help with the numbers". Here I prove just how strange I really am.
Thanks
Ploppy3
It is good to see some of the old peeps popping up in here along with some new nicks . You seem to be stirring the troops some Cypher, Good Job!
I'm quiet impressed with what cypher has done here. The metaverse looks quiet active alright. well done
Dear
I'm back! My computer as crashed three times in three days so I haven't had a chance to play in a week now because it takes 1 to 2 days to download (4.73KB/s) Galactic Civilizations II and that is not includes the other two expansions, all together 2 to 3 days. My tech is coming over today to upgrade my motherboard with GA-EP 45-D55, Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 and V-Gen 4 GB Ram.
Cypher well done on your post. As being a Newbie, I learn alot through surfing the forums, too. A good spark is what this website needs. I'm still trying find answers to two of my posts.
Order of the Bloody Rose of Orders Militant of Adepta Sororitas
Saint Mina of Opelia VII
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“We are at war with forces too terrible to comprehend. We cannot afford mercy for any of its victims too weak to take the correct course. Mercy destroys us; it weakens us and saps our resolve. Put aside all such thought. They are not worthy of Inquisitors in the service of Our Emperor. Praise his name for in our resolve we only reflect his purpose of will.”
Inquisitor Enoch,
Castigations on the Last Days
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