12/12/2009
Sins of a Galactic Empire (SOGE) 1.0e release for Sins of a Solar Empire EntrenchmentA Star Wars total conversion mod for Sins of a Solar Empire12-12-2009TEAM=============================================Models, textures, ship stats: EvillejediAbilities and tons of debugging: Psychoak (It would have taken another year without this help)Swrebellion.com Web support and general debugging: Evaders Interface icons: OzwolfSW Music: PedroMany many beta testers, many who didn't do a damn thing thanks to those that gave us valuable feedback!Probably some other people I am missing, thanksCONTACT=============================================Development website http://warlords.swrebellion.comDevelopment forum http://warlords.swrebellion.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=593&sid=d9baa3b5114c49929088ca5b1506e866bug tracker http://warlords.swrebellion.com/mantis/view_all_bug_page.phpsins forum https://forums.sinsofasolarempire.com/331584INSTALLATION=============================================The zip file should be around 225mbExtract the contents of the zip file to your sins mod directory Example for windows XP C:\Documents\<username>\Local Settings\Application Data\Ironclad Games\Sins of a Solar Empire\Mods-Entrenchment v1.041\Example for Vista/win 7 C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Local\Ironclad Games\Sins of a Solar Empire\Mods-Entrenchment v1.041\open the game and go into options and select the mod from the list of available mods and then activate it.THIS MOD HAS NOT BEEN TESTED WITH ANY OTHER MOD AND PROBABLY WILL NOT WORK WITH ANY OTHER MOD BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF FILES IT ELIMINATED TO BE STABLE.The mod should be working fine if the only races you can select are the star wars races. If this is not the case you have not properly installed the mod in your mods folder.NOTES=============================================This release is a compiled version of 1.0e, there are newer builds on the SVN, however these may be unstable or perform poorly, so download at your own riskIf you are in the beta test you will not need to download this file, simply update your SVN repository to get the latest versionThis release contains fully playable factions for the Rebel Alliance, Imperial Navy, Confederacy of Independent systems and Galactic RepublicThere are currently no star bases in the mod and the Civilian research has not been modified, it will be modified in the futureSince it is a total conversion this mod does not contain the stock races (advent, vasari, tech), this decision is driven by the hardcode limits imposed by ironclad and by eliminating them makes the mod much more stable. If you want the star wars races with the standard sins races check out Star Wars Requiem at http://sins.imperial.cc/If you would like to participate in the development of the mod we can definitely use your help! However we are looking for skilled individuals to do development of many detailed aspects of research/ability coding and 2d artwork and do not need general help. Please post on the development forum if you feel that you can help us.Please check the development website for updates on news, new content or official patchesIf you would like to participate in beta testing the mod you can post in the beta testing forum to get access, we are looking for testers that will provide detailed feedback of items they find in the game into our bug tracker.SOME STRATAGIES=============================================Planetary defenses are great starting elements to protect your planets, especially when upgraded, build lots of turrets!There are a few planet hardening upgrades in the defense research, these are crucial if you want your colonies to survive.Capital ships need to be protected before they gain a few levels, once they have a few levels they will become very potent.The ranges for weapons have been greatly extended. If you want more epic battles move your ships into closer range and many abilities and other weapons will be used by the vessels.Remember even Admiral Ackbar thought that it was suicide to move so close to the imperial star fleet!The Imperials focus on Heavy firepower, Ion weaponry and command and control. It is best to lead groups of star destroyers with a flag ship. The Empire does not have a low cost colonizer, but the gladiator and ISDs are very capable. The Executor really has no equal.The Alliance is focused on survivability, the mon calimari vessels may not have a lot of firepower, but they will be able to last the engagement. Mix the mon cal vessels with their other vessels for a mixed fleet and protect the Diplomatic vessels, they have excellent high level abilitiesThe CIS starts off weak, but has some extremely powerful abilities after a bit of research, build lots of trafed II's at the beginning and then progress to Lucrehulks with buzz droids.The republic is based off of mass production of its vessels, use support vessels to supplement homogenous fleets and Lead the fleets with a Jedi cruiser.KNOWN BUGS=============================================Some abilities may not work exactly as described, may have conditional issues or may be over/underpowered. This is being worked on and some of it requires Ironclad to release a new patchResearch costs have not been finalized, they will change in the futureSome ships may be unbalanced this will be addressed as we get specific bug reports some descriptions are too long and cause the text to spill out of the description box, this is especially true on lower resolution screens like laptop screens. We are working to fix thisOn some ships it may be possible to zoom in to the point that the models mesh disappears slightly this is being addressed.some vessels such as the subjugator and some fighters may have no texture or may have incomplete textures, this is being addressed in future versionsYwings are currently being displayed as bwings, this will be fixed soonSome abilities or effects may require work, this is especially true of abilities like SprintSome icons are being reworked and will require some adjustmentsFighters fly through ships and bounce around, this is something that needs to be fixed by ironclad, it is an engine issue.The AI likes to spam some ships, right now there is no fix for this.Compatibility =============================================Entrenchment 1.041+ (until ironclad breaks it again)model files and textures are compatible with older versions of Sins, however Ironclad made many changes to the SINS code that require 1.041, if you want to backport the mod to a previous version feel free, but it is a tremendous amount of workDownload Links=============================================
http://www.filefront.com/15122655/SOGE1.0e.zip
Been playing a couple SOGE games with my brother. A few issues:
Please rebalance the ships. Alliance is way too OP.
Please refigure ship supply usage, If most people get lagged up in vannillia sins, what makes you think there computers will perform any better with a mod that allows 10x the ships?
The Acc II does not have a range limit. The computer player sends 5 of these ships and they can wipe out my colony and jump out before my fleet can even travel to them from the other side of the planet. And why does the Acc II get strike craft but not Acc I?
Some capital ships are insane, and some are weak. Shouldn't 3 SD destroy a Mon remonda class? I realize that some here will argue that the Mon remonda was a strong ship in the SW universe, but please for the sole reason of game play fix these issues.
My main issues are the increased ship count causes the lag to get insane, I have a very nice PC, overclocked and crossfired, but this game only runs on one core so it will play the same if you have a pentium 4 or a quadcore, keep this in mind because I dont want to play the game at 2 fps.
Balance Balance Balance and o, why not just wait for a full release of the complete mod instead of piecemeal, its great work, dont ruin it by giving the public an incomplete mod. If I can wait for the full release, so can the rest of these kids.
Thanks EvilJedi, don't feel pressured by a bunch of little kids, just keep at it, and give us a release when its ready.
I appreciate this mod and the time you spend here, why not open a paypal donations box on your web site, someone might be generous. . . . .
Drunkdriver:
please report this in the bug tracker in detail, saying the alliance is overpowered but not citing specific examples is worthless to me. If you mention that for example the MC30c is broken, that is a good example, but beyond that I have no idea what overpowered means in this context. Please make your bug reports concise as blanket statements will be ignored.
I can increase the supply cost of frigates and cruisers, the capital ships are already almost unbuildable without research except for the ones that are really just glorified cruisers (venator) many of the small ships have a supply cost of 1 right now and those can be spammed pretty easily.
the acc II range is note, also if the supply cost is increased the AI won't be able to make as many as quickly
the acc I has no external hanger, I mean it could launch fighters, but the Acc II has an open space hanger (because it eliminates a lot of the plantary landing stuff.) I just haven't put the model in yet.
Some capital ships are insane, and some are weak. Shouldn't 3 SD destroy a Mon remonda class? I realize that some here will argue that the Mon remonda was a strong ship in the SW universe, but please for the sole reason of game play fix these issues.My main issues are the increased ship count causes the lag to get insane, I have a very nice PC, overclocked and crossfired, but this game only runs on one core so it will play the same if you have a pentium 4 or a quadcore, keep this in mind because I dont want to play the game at 2 fps.
the mon remonda stats are exactly 4x the shield and hull of an ISD II and 2x the firepower (so 3/4 vs 2/3, 3/4ths should win). the shield regen rates are the same, so the only difference would be the abilities which if you read the OP are very basic right now. IMO 3Sd's should destroy a remonda especially if they are using their alpha strike ability and the remonda is only occasionally using its shield regen (I can look at anti matter and time cooldown rates, the shield buff seems to easy to use).
for the disparity inside the same class blame Iron clad for having only 3 'classes' and tight limits around those classes at that.
I don't have such extreme lag problems and I don't have anything fancy for a computer (it's at least 2 years old now, no OC and a lowly single video card that is 3 generations old), but increasing the supply cost of small ships should eliminate most of the issues as stated above
I can't. not with the schedule I keep, I would just shut down the mod completely if that was even a consideration.
I'd suggest you donate to SWR.com to help pay for bandwidth costs and hosting, I personally cannot take any donations
on the contary no group should have to go this alone if there are bug hunters that want to test this and play around with the models and the freebies they give us in a .75 mod then I will take it and give the my effort as a star wars fan to make their mod better....
Their bug hunter tool is top notch i like it... I am using it... and most of everything you have mentioned is being or prolly has been sorted for their next release. These guys have put alot of work into this and I really like the chance to say thanks and play/help them with this mod as best and as fast I can!
Great job guys!
a couple of ship list additions that should round out the fleets a bit
the republic will get the class II frigate as a carrier (cruiser) and the nexu heavy transport as a planetary assualt vehicle and utility (cruiser)
the CIS will get a variant of the CC-9979 lander as a seperate landing (frigate) as well as a trade federation patrol frigate.(heavy frigate)
I will be releasing a small patch in about 2 weeks, so get your bug reports in so I can fix as many things as possible!
Man, the radial missile spam is powerful...
Good thing too, I'd lose every match without em against hard AI.
I haven't run into the minidump. I've been running battles with fewer strike craft than they've mentioned, but I've definitely been using a lot of strike craft, particularly as the Empire with that four squad carrier. I've had upwards of 100 squads in a well on a regular basis, and I just got through with a three prong attack with an ally AI, there had to be at least 500 squads between them. It might be a computer specific glitch.
Eville- One thing you may want to add back in is (sorry I can not remember the ability name) the ability to occupy crystal/metal astoroids on non-colonizable planets. In the normal game the colonizing ships had that skill. Just a thought, if nothing else I always loved doing that so I could see if the AI was crossing that area.
And Damn you for taking away all of my sleep for the last week! This mod is WAY too much fun.
I had just played the mod last night it was great, now i have to wait for the Battlestar Mod and the Star Trek mod
So far, I've been faced with no minidumps...then again, I don't nomrally use strike craft.
Last time i posted i was complaining about a minidump. But lately i have been playing and havn't had a problem. When it first happened i had a SSD traveling through a planet when it was being attacked by a couple of frigates i told it to stop so it would launch its strike craft then i minidumped
But i played through a whole game with 2 SSD, 5 or 6 of normal SD and plenty of carriers. so i don't think the strike craft is the problem...
my bad i forgot about the Acc had the same rules as a colonizer
The Acc I is considered a colonizer so it won't be selected when you are selecting combat ships. You'll notice even if you put it in a fleet and select that fleet, the Acc I's won't be selected.
That's because the Acc I is technically a colony ship, so it isn't selected when the box includes "real" warships.
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I have a few things to say about this, after playing it for a couple games. Currently I've only played as Imperial and CIS, but I have noticed a few things...
Why are cruisers so darn big!? Shouldn't you make some of them smaller? For example, the Core Ship. BIG. About as big as a cap ship. Yet it's a cruiser.
Next, CIS cap ship Trafed Heavy Destroyer... I seem to recall, in the movies, Trafed Destroyers having a ball in the middle, connected to the ring around it, not just the ring. You might want to consider adding that to the model before you texturize the Destroyer.
Also, I've noticed that in a couple of ships, the movement looks really strange. Namely, Core Ship and Trafed Heavy Destroyer. Maybe you should just add a few engines or something to make it look better?
It would also be nice if you added descriptions, either in-game or on here, that described at least the CLASS of the ship, as I can't tell which ship is which class until I build it, leading itself to a lot of experimental building, where most of the time I don't even get the ship I want to use. So it forces me to decide almost completely on attack power and defense power alone(though still... Having about 40 Trafed II Frigates and then another 20 or so Geonosian Pinnacles... Mmm.. That fight was fun).
eeek I'd just like to give an opposing view here, I really like that cruisers are so big. It feels weird in Sins to have a battleships and then these tiny little ships that look like 1 person could fly them. I definitely like the scale you've got going on.
Well, I guess I could agree with you a bit. SOME big cruisers look nicer big.
Eville is a purist. He's not going to butcher canon sizing because the cruisers look too big.
They're using actual Star Wars sizes, the Core ships are big because they're supposed to be big. Which ones are in which classification is the product of a gui with limitations.
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Guys please make your suggestions and bug reports to the bug software he has setup to help monitor the progress of the bugs and development of fixes.
please report bugs to http://warlords.swrebellion.com/mantis/or http://warlords.swrebellion.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=587&t=27411
Thanks for the good work SWR and Co...
i altered some of the files so now the Executor is Very Spammable (1 Credit 2 Metal 1 Crystal 1 Supply)
Hey where are you getting the stats for ships like the mon remonda?
Why is it that 7 Deadly Sins has TIE fighter models but we don't?
Oh and a bug I dont know if this has been been said but when I want to add strikecraft to a torpedo sphere it automatically has one and when I click it the game minidumps.
becuse they have a bug that makes the mod dump
Well I had my first minidump. I personally think it has something to do with the fleet sizes in game. It was me and 3 othe ai players and later game I had 3 fleets goin and the ai had huge fleets as well.
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