Purpose:
To see if I can do it. And well, people let me optimize their systems, I need to find a working solution so I don't need to help them too often.
Goal:
A clean smoothly running computer with a minimal amount of effort. The aim is to use as few different software components as possible.
How to achieve the goal:
Seems reasonable to use a freely available software suite. That way I don't need to have too many pieces of software running, and reduce risk of incompatibility issues.
The Hardware:
An old FujitsuSiemens computer. As I won't do any numbercrunching tests, specs are not really important. I'll just see how it feels to use it. Will it get slower over time? A real user don't do benchmarking.
The Software:
The OS is Windows XP Home (Swedish OEM). Newly installed.
Did some research, and decided on the following things to start:
I also installed Mozilla Firefox and some stardock software to make it look good. (What can I say, it's important to me... It's a "real life" test, so I want it to be as I would have it. Along with the OS, these are the only commercial components I'll use on the computer.)
The Results:
... Pending ...
The computer has been up and running for a few days now, and I've had no issues yet. It's not been used very much yet though.
Additional Comments:
I'll keep you posted on any issues that arise while using the computer (If any. No news is good news. ). I'll also post any changes I make to the installation of the computer.
Feel free to suggest things I should do. I'm not saying I'll do it, but I'll consider it, and perhaps someone else thinks it's a good thing to do if I don't. Keep in mind that this is a "minimal effort" attempt, so I'm not doing any advanced tweaking of any kind.
I'm also interested in how you'd go about doing the same test. What software would you choose? There are some altenative free software suites out there. Avast, AVG, Avira for antivirus. Glary Utilities for system maintenance. I don't really have a particular reason for choosing what I did, other than the fact that the IOBit PRO suite is really affordable at the moment (which isn't really a concern when running the free version ), and Comodo has a good rep.
Online Armor firewall but AVAST anti-virus. Both free. IMHO Has worked without problem for over a year now.
IOBit isn't free...system mechanic isn't freeware. Has very limited usefulness.
I considered online armor, but decided to go for a more complete security suite instead. I figure it should have less impact on system resources, and minimizes the risk of conflicts. Some features *always* seem to overlap between firewall and antimalware software.
IOBit has a free version of SystemCare, which I'm running on the computer. Even though it's limited compared to the pro version, it most definetely does *something*. Time will tell if it does it well. If it doesn't, I'll find something else...
One or more parts of any suite are always weaker than something else that's available. I use Online Armor paid (OA And Comodo firewalls are both top rated), NOD32 Anti-virus (many consider the best). I also use SuperAnti-Spyware as an additional scanner. You should also use a keylogger detector like ICe Sword or Hijack This (on demand scanners only). Of course IMHO
Running OA and NOD32 I have a very reasonable CPU footprint. I hope you have good luck in your testing and setup of a final security system.
I've used this(formerly Advanced Windows Care) since last January.It not only raised my Windows Experience score two tenths,I saw a marked decrease in memory usage as well as reduced boot-up time.It's light on resource usage and well laid out.Online reports of any problems/repairs are also available.It is very easy to set up and use and I would recommend it to anyone.And yes,it is free.
This experiment got terminated early because the harddrive failed (physically). It worked pretty well up until I got the dreaded "harddrive clicketyclickclockblonk"-noise.
...
Just a silent moment in the memory of the old harddrive that was in it...
If anyone would happen to be curious, it's a Western Digital WD1200BB... Dated 18 Aug 2002... I think these had a rep of being a bit unreliable? Can't really fault this particular drive though, it has served me well.
From bits we all came . . . to bits we all shall return . . .
Interesting topic. Right now I'm using AVG Free and I'm unsatisfied with it's memory usage.
I'm really suspicious to everything called "free", since they all have versions that is not free. Every serious test out there is on the commercial packages, not the free ones...
Say what you will about "free" products, but I've been an AVG user since the free version killed some viruses on my father's machine that paid Norton couldn't.
Same here Sole, AVG's been great, where other AV's said thing's couldn't be healed, [thank goodness I didn't delete the files back then as suggested by McAfee] AVG fixed everything.
I understand your reasoning here, but in all honesty a lot of these companies realize they make more money off business licenses and not home user licenses. Also, McAfee and norton are the two huge dominating names in home pc security(and not near the best in my opinion) and by offering near fully functional pieces of software for free, they are able to convert people, and hopefully spread their good name to companies where they will sell more business licenses.
Ya, a lot of the free anti-virus and anti-spyware software are really good. AVG has been awesome for years, but lately I find it slipping a little. Usually the free anti-virus software offers decent protection that is all you really need. Not saying this about all features, but normally when you get the paid version, you get quicker updates(not usually a huge deal) and added features which more often than not are just bloat features that slow thigns down even more.
I think the only type of security software really worth buying is anti-spyware, which has a huge lead on the free versions at the moment.
Hardly... They might make *most* money off business licenses, but I really doubt home user sales are negligible. If they really had realized it, they'd offer the FULL versions of their products free for home use. The whole point with the free versions is to make people realize they need the full blown product to not be significantly crippled.
I disagree. I only use free versions these days because the "paid-for" versions are over-bloated and I've never felt that I was unprotected or had to buy a full version.
Anti-virus software is like a condom. No one sane runs around with a condom on all the time. You only need a security suite if you're stupid or engaging in risky behavior. Don't open attachments from idiots, and stay off the warez/porn sites. As long as you stay updated, you're good to go. I've had to clean my system twice in four years of running without a firewall or anti-viral either one.
Then god knows what you've got on your system.
A HJT log from your system would make an interesting read lol
Mate, you can pick up a virus... or malware/spyware etc, from anywhere, you don't need to go to warez or porn sites, I got a hideous hijacker the other week just from Googling pics.. so if you haven't done a REAL scan with any of the heavy duty anti-malware progs out there.. then your system is probably crawling with trojans, key loggers & who knows what else
It doesn't matter how 'safe' you think you are, you really aren't.
Just because your machine appears to be running smoothly, doesn't mean it's virus/malware free
Seriously.
Does no one remember the .mdf hole from a couple years back?
I'd post a HJT log, but my computer is three thousand miles away, and will stay that way for another two weeks. It's been about two years since I found anything more than a tracking cookie.
Besides, the last one was fun, it gave me two whole days of entertainment. The removal tools weren't up to snuff, so I had to find and remove it all manually. That trojan was a fucking badass, Spybot could find it, but not remove it, and no one else knew it was there. I downloaded a key generator(OMG PIRATE!!!) and ran it on my computer with the suspicion that it was a threat. I was bored, forgetting CD keys in a move will do that to you.
I've only had two relatively recent problems because I picked up that nice rpc killer on a fresh install. It had already been patched out of winblows by the time it hit the net, as most are.(*hint*) If the assfuckers at UPS hadn't dropped my computer I'd have been in less of a hurry to get the little shit connected and would have enabled the firewall while updating. Six and a half weeks of telling UPS employees that they suck at their job left me in an irritable state, that insurance check is encased in six feet of lead and guarded by marines when you live in the sticks.
I haven't reformatted since I put the damned thing together either. It's still running clean as a whistle, a whistle with a two second delay on satellite internet... The horror.
You're internet tards, accept it.
That depends. I don't run a firewall, because I use a router, which has a NAT Firewall built in. Anyone using a router don't need a firewall. Adding a firewall to a system on a router is just slowing down your computer for no good reason. Now, ALWAYS run an anti-virus.
No offense intended, but that is a stupid statement. I have two plaques on my office wall that insists that I make that statement.
That's not entirely true. A NAT router is not in any way a complete firewalling solution, no matter what they print on the box. While it may protect you from pretty much all (currently wild) random incoming attacks, it only works one way (unless you bought an expensive hardware firewall, or use some nifty firmware like tomato which improves protection and features radically in some routers).
Sole Soul, you're not talking about the Slammer worm are you? I can't seem to find reference to a MDF hole in google.
If you are talking about that wonderful worm that caused havok on the internet, it was patched out several months earlier. Only fucktards that didn't update their systems in that time got hit with it.
Crikey psychoak, I swear more than Al Pacino dude, but not on here
I ran a ton of scans with a zillion different thing's, then one final one with a better scanner and it picked up a further 300+ trojans and what-not so psy, you still really don't know what you may have
Excuse me while I laugh hysterically at the hilarity of someone having a system that hosed.
Sorry, but I'm squeaky clean. Either get over it or assume I'm lying. There isn't anything hiding on my system.
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