well iv been working out a chart for the military ranks, once i start going into space in my story. This is close to being the finished product, and as such I would love suggestions on any of these ranks that just do not rub right with you. Any comments at all.

 the boxes that have no name mean theres no rank of that kind in that race. just to clear that up.

gotta giv the credit where its due, the U.S. Navy ranks i got from:

http://www.militaryfactory.com/ranks/navy_ranks.asp

hey guys! if ur not looking at the first title page think marked READ! READ! DONT SKIP!, i would advise you to do that. i post special updates to the story, there, and any other revelant information there. like the link to the galaxyforge file of Vorg's flight from the Vasari Empire. u gotta always giv that first thing a quick glance, to make sure ur not missing out on anything.

im actually got all this in jarte.

but i cant publish without permission from the ironclad guys

that would be illegal

big no-no

ha thanks, but i cant ask them to let me publish it. at least not till iv got it almost completely done. WHICH I CANT DO IF NO ONE OFFERS SUGGESTIONS ON THE RANKING CHART!  (thats a hint to talk about it)

maybe they'll skim over it while checking on the forums one day and like it, but right now im just gonna concentrate on making the story awesome. refining it. then maybe ill ask around about publishing. tho thatll be a year later at the least, they time it takes to write a real book. best i can say, keep this post alive until then!   (would really like comments on the chart)

thank you, Orodum. The manual doesnt actually name a specific Vasari rank, they just name the Dark Fleet. Dark Fleet Veerr. and well, petty warrior of the remnants is a hefty impressive name, but yeah, i see your point. petty has to go.

thank u israil. i made some changes, but i really like the grunt idea for Vasari. how do u like the changes to the fleet master issue? a premiers basically the best of the type. pretty much. like the premier of france.

Write a novel!

You have a great sensitivity to plot and suspense. I'd root for it to become a movie alternative to Star Trek or Star Wars.

i dont really want to quote you, AxeEmAll, just cause thats a whole lotta word, but here we go. the vasari, in my perspective, dont care about the races they dominate, as you said, nor do they care whether a high official is killed. but they do care about politics, somewhat. like what u'll see in my next chapter, the High Captain assassinates the Fleet Admiral Commander because he wanted to rule the fleet, and he thought that Xranks was in the way. Now when the other officials of the fleet come for a conference of war, they are not phased by the blood-stained room and the new Admiral Commander, indeed they feel great respect for the Vasari that had the courage to do such a thing. they scheme, but they prize good scheming, great tactics, and the such. since they are such a strict militarized race, they care greatly for rank, and one who is lower than another should strictly abide to his place, unless, once again, he can devise a way to move higher up. without getting caught. it is something like a military tactic theyd use against an enemy, find a way to defeat him, but do it in a way that they wouldnt expect, something they aren't prepared for. and since it is similar to the idea that theyd use in war, successful assassinations and the like are highly prized accomplishments...until they can be killed by someone else. and in this multitude it becomes very hard to trust anyone, for they could be plotting to take your place, so military rank helps there also since there are things you say to a subordinate and things you say to a...i forget the word...official with a higher rank, and that is that. they are rigidly stuck in their militaristic regime.

actually i guess that is wat u were saying, politics was nothing more than a way to satisfy ambitious egos, but i explained more .

the Vasari do have a natural drive to conquer galaxies and enslave others, but underlying that is the fear of whatever is chasing them, a fear that has laid there for centuries, and that shows up in my story also. how the Vasari behave when they start to lose. "what? we lost? we've never lost a planet before! Except...my god can these creatures be it?" and that makes the Vasari more cautious in their attack and leads to the standoff that is entrenchment, but thats way later in the book and i basically just came up with that now. good idea though. the advent is going to scare the shit out of the Vasari. but they'll both have surprises for each other....

o yes, and from my first long paragraph of words, i obviously do not agree with ur the Vasari love each other more than anything. definitely not.

well, hope this all helps u see wat goes on in my head. thanks for the suggestions, AxeEmAll, your post just helped me come up with many many ideas for later on in the story. a couple of which i mentioned in this post.

o, here comes another idea. maybe the zombie-Zeke will become a sort of Heather Ledger Joker character. Who knows. We'll see how it goes. Hope you're all excited for new chapters. they'll be coming soon.

Chapter 4, part 1
Councils of War

The Vasari

10 years ago, Vasari Base of Operations, planet code named VASAR

    Flankx looked up at the knock on his door. It was his door now. He waved his hand in the direction of the door, and the small reader recorded his hand motion and unlocked it. The six Elite Subjugators entered the room, eyes swiveling in case of traps. Flankx's mouth twitched. He had already laid his trap, and the one he had lain it for had fallen into it. Flankx stood up and motioned for the Elite Subjugators to take a seat. They did, hesitantly, unsure of their surrounding. It took great strength to hide his smile. Flankx looked around at the room. Purple Vasari blood streaked the walls, gathering in pools on the floor. Across one wall was the outline, in blood, of a Vasari.
    "When will the Admiral Commander be with us?" One of the Elite Subjugators asked.
    Flankx snorted. They still thought him a High Captain!
    "He is standing in front of you."
    They stared at him, first at the omission of sir, then again when they realized what he had said. Each of them in turn licked his lips.
    "My humble apologies, Admiral Commander, I was not aware..."
    "Enough. We have other matters to discuss."
    Elite Subjugator Num'pol rose from where he had prostrated himself on the floor, thinking hard. This Vasari had killed Xranks? Num'pol gave the new Admiral Commander a closer look. Power permeated the air around him, and he barely hid a smirk. Yes, this one was capable of assassinating a superior. Very capable. Arrogance followed this one as the hecer follows the cabal. Yes, this one was extremely dangerous. Yet Num'pol could not stop a feeling of awe sweep through him. Again he studied the room. Blood soaked almost every corner, yet there was no sign of a struggle. Whatever he had done, he had done quick, yet the victim had not died slow. He must have cut out the tongue first, so Xranks could not cry out for help. Then, piece by piece...Num'pol imagined this new Admiral Commander slicing up Xranks like a newly-strung sapper. Yes, this one had power.
    "I believe it was 2nd branch that first reported the hostiles?"
    Num'pol rose and bowed. "Yes, Admiral Commander, it was I."
    "Inform me."
    "Sir. We first arrived at the yellow star we have named Hiske, and followed a phase lane to a small terran planet. This planet, sir. There were numerous structures we believe were trade ports, or something similar, due to the extreme number of cargo ships. Hundreds of them, sir. We managed to destroy about a hundred, you can check our log for an exact count, sir, but hundreds still escaped through other phase lanes. We then destroyed the trade ports and took control of the planet. Due to this new threat, we eliminated all inhabitants of the planet before colonizing. We didn't think it wise to allow them a chance to escape. We do not know anything about them, yet. Sir. As we took out the structures we radioed in the occurrence, and received orders to lock down the planet and its gravitational ring, which we did. That is all, sir."
    Num'pol sat back down as Flankx frowned in thought.
    "So we know not the numbers of our foe, just that they have hundreds of cargo ships on one planet...1st branch."
    The Vasari to the right of Num'pol rose. His name was Esquian.
    "Yes, Admiral Commander?"
    "You will take your division and chase after these fleeing trade ships. Scout the system. Report any resistance, however small, and your coordinates. Check in every 3 hours. If you encounter heavy resistance, do not engage and send an immediate alert. Do not engage! That is very important. We will need to trap them. Whittle down their numbers, yet keep one space-worthy and disabled, so we might learn more about these creatures. 2nd branch, you will take your forces and follow behind 1st branch, reading his reports in detail, and choosing a more tactically efficient base of operations. This planet has too many phase lanes jutting out of it. We need one we can easily defend, yet would be hard to assault."
    Num'pol rose and bowed. "I know what to look for, Admiral Commander."
    "Then go. Both of you. 1st branch, I expect you to leave immediately. Waste no time. 2nd branch, I want you gone by 1st branch's first report, in three hours. Are we clear?"
    "Completely, Admiral Commander."
    "It will be done, Admiral Commander."
    Esquian and Num'pol left the blood-stained room, leaving 3rd through 6th branch with the new Admiral Commander. He did not envy them. This new Admiral Commander made no mention of the fate of his predecessor, indeed, he did not even mention the state of the room. He did not speak of it, yet his action alone spoke loud enough. This one was dangerous. Num'pol looked at Esquian.
    "The fate of the Vasari lies in this one's hands," Esquian quoted from the Tome of the Warrior.
    Num'pol nodded. "It shall be as it shall be, and none will have the power to stop it." That was from the Prophecies of Reunion.
    Esquian held out his arm. "For brother made, and brother sold, we are brothers and stand against the Darkness."
    Num'pol shivered. Esquian was quoting the Downfall of the Empire. The darkness referred to whatever chased them. What was still chasing them. It was not mentioned in normal conversation.
    "You believe these creatures to be of the Dark, then?"
    "Nothing is clear, yet I believe we will find that these creatures surround us, and they will not be conquered as easy as VASAR. The Darkness might have spread before us, and laid a trap against us. We must be careful, or it will swallow us."
    Num'pol grasped Esquian's hand, and shook it firmly. "We will do all we can to fight the Darkness, yet still it will come. We will flee, yet we shall be victorious. That is the way of the Vasari."
    Esquian grinned. "Good hunting, Num'pol."
    "Good hunting."
    The Darkness might have spread before us, and laid a trap against us. Num'pol shivered. None of the Vasari had ever faced the Darkness. It had always followed behind them, eating up the planets they had placed sensors on, never close, yet never far. If it had indeed reached this place before us...

    The weak shall fall, and the strong shall fall, and the Vasari shall remain triumphant. What will come will come, and they will face it when it does. Now there was work to be done.

i kinda have to disagree about the perspective on advent here...they are a collective concsience. i imagine their leadership structure is actually rather effetive--if the top guy gets nocked off, everyone moves up a notch. and i don't see advent pirates being particularly common. its just not in their nature. or they wouldn't take money & would just hate everyone and attack randomly...remember-advent hate EVERYONE. and i imagine the unity would have a bit of an issue with rogue members.

Great story, I like the personifications of the Vasari and Advent in addition to TEC and how you have not just fighting but some politics and inner workings of the empires!

I like the ranks you came up with. Keep up the good job, man.

Fujuki

AND WE HAVE IT!

i am introducing a new segment of Sinners, called Sinners Chronicles. It might follow the story, it might not, but its going to be a collection of videos with some background info on the races and some of their lore. its gonna be sweet. at least wen i get the full fraps. right now i hav the free version, which is sucky. so the first video i made im calling a teaser, and ill change it into the actual prologue for Chronicles as soon as i get the full fraps.

but watch it tell me wat u think!

u can watch it HERE on youtube (terrible quality, just terrible) or download it off of mediafire HERE. either way, let me no wat u think about the idea of Sinners Chronicles.