Every day I visit tons of website, forums, and social networks for all types of topics, most of which are technology based in some sort of form. This election cycle has really brought out the best of the liberal “group think” mentality regarding Obama. On just about every social network Obama is praised as “the one” and any hint of disagreement with his policies or ideals is immediately responded with accusations of racism, or just plain insults. Anybody who wants to claim that liberals are tolerant to others, please give me a shout because I can quickly debunk that. Even here on our network of sites, there have been insults tossed at the slightest hint of either supporting McCain, or being against Obama. I’m certainly not saying conservatives don’t dish out their fair share, but the mentality of liberals has once again bordered on the insane and hateful.
It’s tough being a proud conservative, as I will say what I think regardless of what the group and mob mentality is. The real shame is so many people, especially bloggers in the tech area, are afraid to do the same. I have received so many private notes and comments in support of standing up for conservatism, it’s almost crazy. The best comparison I can make is how conservative actors in Hollywood are often ridiculed or turned down for roles because of their conservative beliefs, and the same mentality is going on right now in the blogosphere. Conservative bloggers, some of which can be considered A-list are having to remain silent about their thoughts on Obama and McCain, simply because they are afraid of retribution from their employers or just not being able to pickup work from other sites. It’s a shame, and it’s more telling about liberals than it is anything.
I am a conservative, I don’t like Obama, and I will never let anyone intimidate me because of that.
That was 40 years ago and I salute his service.
But less than 1 year ago, he sold out all of his core beliefs for one last shot at the White House. In 2000, I trusted and liked John McCain very much. Today, I don't trust the man as far as I can throw him.
Obama I trust. And, unlike the dwindling numbers of McCain supports, I am not alone.
We will! Many of us already have.
The couple thousand in questionable donations
My bad. I wasn't aware that it was only a couple of thousand but rather that tens of million$ of his donations are untraceable. I stand corrected.
Gladly, someone does have a trace on the million$ of donations made below the $200 mark, they just haven't disclosed the sources. Except maybe the several from his Kenyan Auntie Z, which of course are illegal since she is not legally here herself, according the news this morning. It's good to see though that Obama supports her deportation as the law proscribes. I suppose if they could trace her illegal donations in only a few months time, it should only take several years to track the millions in other donations from undisclosed sources as well. Whew! That's good to know
Or, maybe it was just several hundred donations made… for millions each. No, that can't happen either 'cause that, too, would be illegal. If only transparency were more transparent. Oh, well. I think that's what the American people had in mind when they instituted the law of donating to the Presidential election process, when we file our income taxes, to cover the cost of a sane spending in a presidential campaign. And also to avoid the seeming possibility that a candidate was bought; and in a worse case scenario, by a foreign power. The way the American people established the law, it would provide that all monies to cover expenses would be disbursed by the federal Government so there would be no question as to where it came from and where it went. This was the program that Obama so staunchly supported for its integrity. Until he didn't.
I'd term it 'wooled pulled over eyes'"
Sadly I think He'll win... lots of sheep out there willing to trade votes for hand outs and an excuse not to work quite as hard.
If I could vote.. My vote wouldn't be for sale.
Can hardly wait to see the 'chosen one' come crashing down when reality sets in and he can't do 90% of what was promised to get him in office.
That thur is funny
And then you post a whole bunch more Campaign 101 donation drivel and ANOTHER non-issue right after it...sigh.
For example, McCain-Feingold was about stopping SOFT MONEY contributions from PACs. It had nothing to do with American Citizens legally donating <$100 each to politicians they support.
And, I'll assume you've forgotten this, it's the GOP and RNC that challenged all of these provisions and laws straight to the Supreme Court and lost these rulings from 2002 to 2007. Which is saying something, since the Supreme Court is tilted pro-RNC/GOP right now.
(see the same link above for a summary and links to the actual Supreme Court rulings)
Again profound ignorance of WHY I am voting for him (and the majority of the nation now), which I've detailed clearly in numerous posts, cited with documented facts.
I could easily say "there's an ever dwindling minority of neanderthal thinkers who just don't realize that the world is leaving them behind" but I won't, because that would be small-minded and ignorant.
Well, that's POLITICS, after all. No matter what, he can't do worse than Bush has. There's just not much further down we can go.
$260...that they are going to have to give back...because she sent $5 to her own nephew. She should have just sent it in a Christmas or Birthday card.
I'll take that bet...Suuuure he could do worse... I havent suffered in anyway under bush that I can feel.
Well, I feel safer than in 2001, but thats a good thing.
Id rather be safe and poor than rich and vaporized.
Fact is.... Obama will win because millions of people want a hand out.
Lame.
My point EXACTLY. ONE of the candidates running for President knows how to operate a computer...one does not.
What does running a PC have to do with making decisions?
Did Reagan know how to run a PC? or word processor?
Who cares? Someone would vote either way because of that? It's Petty.
By the comments made by several people in this thread, being able to operate a computer hasn't progressed much beyond making a fire or grunting.
I'm beginning to be skeptical of the reliability of Snopes. They apparently accepted without question the 'copy' of the '1961 birth certificate' that Obama's campaign made available on their 'Fight the Smears' site. From the Snopes entry:
Some outdated versions of this item conclude by stating that "It should be demanded that Obama produce his 1961 Hawaiian birth certificate," but in fact his campaign made an image of that document available on the Internet back in mid-2008.
Turns out the 'image of that document' purports to be a copy of a 'Certification of Live Birth' issued by Hawaii some time after November of 2001, not his '1961 Hawaiian birth certificate.' It also appears highly probable that the image is a fabrication. The links provided in Steve-'s reply #438 are rather convincing that the document is a forgery. Not sure if that makes it more or less 'legally relevant.'
I frankly wasn't particularly interested in this issue when I first heard about it, since there was no reason to doubt that he was born in Hawaii. But the dismissive condescension of Excalpius & BigDogBigFeet sparked my curiosity.
A number of aspects of this controversy make me wonder what we don't know and why BO & his campaign are so reluctant to enlighten us:
1 -The apparent forgery of the Cerfication of Live Birth.
2 -The question of whether Indonesian citizenship required renunciation of all other citizenship (at that time). I believe BO has acknowledged having had Indonesian citizenship before returning to Hawaii.
If renunciation was required and BO's family had indeed done so on his behalf, what would have been required to re-instate his US citizenship after he returned to Hawaii? Perhaps renunciation is a one-way street - once a US citizen, always a US citizen, unless it is revoked by the US government - I don't think so, but am still looking into that. Also not sure how his status as a minor at the time would have affected all of this.
In any event, the issue of his citizenship remains a very legitimate, and unanswered, question despite the Snopes entry.
EDIT - just spotted the reply indicating Hawaii has a legitimate birth certificate on file. As I said, I never had any reason to doubt where he was born. The rest of the story is still unnecessarily murky & incredibly easy to clarify if BO's campaign wanted to. Would also be interesting to hear why a fabricated document was used to 'Fight the Smears.'
This is just meaningless pap, unsupported by anything.
Let me break both of yours arms at the shoulder & leave them untreated for 5 years - see how well you use one then. Petty silliness.
You don't need your arms to operate a computer. They have this thing now (it's making a serious cut in my income since I'm a medical transcriptionist and type hospital records) called SPEECH RECOGNITION. Of course, cavemen aren't aware of this!
Yeah, u better vota Obama, cos he can use a pc.
Am I the only one who thinks that is petty?
This country deserves Obama if this is what it's come to.
More petty silliness. Speech recognition is useful only if 1) you need to use a computer for some thing(s) and 2) you can do everything you need using speech recognition. A computer is nothing but a tool. If he can be just as productive without routinely using one (or pays people to do it for him) so be it. If you really believe that his lack of computer skills/knowledge renders him unqualified to be President, you have some serious issues with reality anyway.
It certainly doesn't make them as competitive as someone who can, and I doubt those people you know who can't use a computer are running for the most powerful office in the world. We live in a global competitive society. The leaders of our nation's enemies know how to use modern technology. Vladamir Putin knows how to use e-mail! Osama Bin Laden knew how to use e-mail. What will it say to the rest of the world if our leader is allowed to stay ignorant when it comes to modern technology?!
Probably about the same as what it says about our people that this should be a point of contention in a presidential election.
Lets grow up a little people.
unless, of course, he leaves our citizens trapped in an embassy in a foreign country, surrounded by the enemy for a year and a half like Carter did. Or he lets an attack like the bombing of the Cole go unpunished, but offered lots of rhetoric like Clinton did. Or he broke into a private office to steal personal information about an adversarry like Nixon did. Or lied under oath, like Clinton did.
I suppose "worse" is a matter of taste, depending on how much of your personal investment is involved, how much cash you actually laid out to finance it in the form of taxes.
I would suggest that if those who are leaving, as you put it, took with them all that they produced and left you to establish your worth 100% on the merit of your own productivity, you might find that you're on the short end of the stick. But able to run a computer (as one poster seemed to think was criterion for the presidency) because you can't pay your staff to run one for you as most successful business people tend to do. My assistant would surely be dismayed if I told her I was laying her off because I was going to run my computer for myself. I think she'd rather that I run the business successfully as my years and experience allow while she gets to buy her home with the wages I pay her to run my computer for me, following of course the direction I give her. As you can see, there is a benefit, at least when working as I do, of one generation working with the other to their mutual benefit.
Clearly the success of one generation to the next is the interdependance that they share and the ability of the latter to appreciate the benefits they derived from the former. The only people who could claim to have truly established on this continent the foundations of their success for themselves might arguably be the first European settlers, who didn't do so well at the outset even with the help they recieved from the locals. Or, of course, the Neanderthals who had it quite a bit rougher, as I understand it.
So what is done with what the older generation has produced, its untold wealth, the target of redistribution not withstanding, is what is of the greatest concern for those that produced that wealth in the first place. Perhaps a bit more concern than that of those that get to inherit it. and that's where we could do a lot worse than Bush has managed to mangle things. A lot worse. But you'd have to remember sitting on gasoline rationing lines in the 70's to appreciate my perspective.
My son came home this week and Stated many of his Pals want Obama to win because they want a black Pres and others wanted McCain because of his military background.. I explained to my son that you should no more take skin color in to voting for a President than voting against one. To vote some one in because they are a specific skin color demeans the whole voting process. I went on to explain the same about the other kids reasons for wanting McCain to win. Voting a candidate on such shallow and inconsequential reasoning's,IMO is tantamount to treason.
It is our responsibility as Citizens to to search out the candidates views on national events and how they want to run the country, then vote from our hearts the best candidate for the position. It is not to be taken lightly as it determines how our country will be for the next 4 years+. I explained that those who wish to use their votes to push an agenda, rather than do whats in the best interest of the country are doing our nation a disservice. If folks only vote for a candidate to satisfy silly reasons, we as a nation loose.
Ive had women tell me they wanted Hillary to win, Some even stated they hated her and all that she stood for, but would have cast her the vote just to see a woman in office in their lifetime. Just about as much Patriotism as the ones voting so willy nilly for the other candidates.
Every election it's the same and getting worse, no longer is it about doing whats best for the country. I might as well vote for the Dominoes pizza delivery guy.
Big deal who wins if the candidates are nothing more than Front's for the Corporations or mouthpieces for their own hidden agenda. Wading thru the BS and lies on both sides makes the voting process harder than it should be.
This thread started as one man saying "I will not bend to the wills of others", instead of celebrating this,( folks should not be hired nor fired for their political beliefs no more than they should be for race or religion.) the thread has turned in to yet another trash fest, one side Vs the other.
Choose wisely Folks, Our Lives and homes depend on your voting with as much knowledge on the REAL topics as possible. Screw the pooch and we all loose.
HG out.
So in the spirit of cooling things off a bit, my friend in New York just sent this to me. Technology having fun. Enjoy.
http://www.noob.us/humor/mccain-obama-dance-off/
poppycock
TIMedWork, that was just bizarre.
But they really shouldn't be leading the free world in the post information age revolution, now should they? For Bush to be so digitally illiterate was and remains laughable. For anyone after him, sorry, no dice.
It's long past time for a leader who's caught up with the 80's era technology, let alone where we are now.
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