Just recently, San Cho posted this Photoshop picture of Sarah Palin in a KKK uniform in the comment section of my blog.
I personally condemn the picture and I can't find any humor in it. My question is simple. Does anyone else condemn this?
And who supports it? I have joked around with photoshop pictures before, but I have never put anyone in a Hitler or KKK uniform because that goes beyond being a joke and crosses over into the realms of full blown hate speech.
Yup, I try to be one of a kind.
Nah, not a cheap shot at hunters... well not those who need to hunt to feed themselves and their families. It was, however, a cheap shot at Palin, who really has no need to hunt. So, being Palin can more than adequately feed herself and family without hunting, killing animals, for her, must be a sport, eh?
Um, Saint C, that bit about staunch Republicans and 'erections' on the town hall steps was just a bit of tongue in cheek and another dig at Palin... eg, the nipple slip and life-like statue for followers to worship. So no, 99% of my posts/comments in this (similar threads) are just a bit of tomfoolery and are not intended to be taken too seriously. Sure it's true that I think Sarah Palin is a complete airhead and would be disasterous for America if she ever got to be VP and/or president, but there's no point in getting serious (yet).... she's a joke to be joked about.
Speaks truth. She does it for sport? Maybe. More likely to get votes. Everything in her 'public' life is geared to that. Hunting to feed your family? OK, if you don't really have a choice. Not OK if it's a weird 'gourmet/gourmand' fixation.
Some people might feel that some animal somewhere doesn't really matter. I don't. I think that represents an arrogance that is unjustifiable: Human life is more valuable than animal life. That is unsupportable. It also worries me. Who knows where that type of thinking ends? Is some human life less valuable than another? Can we then hunt those humans for sport? For 'Security'?
No matter where one goes in the decision tree of violence, one reaches an abhorrent endpoint.
The only acceptable violence is true self defense from immanent death or dismemberment. I don't think shooting wolves from helicopters fits that requirement.
Tina Fey - somebody else who thinks Palin is a joke to be joked about - has Palin firmly in her sights. Apparently, Fey is ready to revive her SNL parody of Palin.
Are you a vegetarian?
Latest reports show that even if you believe you are not a vegatarion you just might be.
Just what goes into those chicken mcnuggets?
Fey's pretty funny, and Palin was a good sport about that type of humor. That kind of thing is all in good fun, but I don't see why people zero in on Palin as "a big joke" when we have people in congress claiming that Guam could "tip over and capsize" at any time and a Vice President who can't seem to go a day without making a complete and utter fool of himself. I think Joe Biden is the laughing stock, Obama still isn't really all that ready for prime time either.
There is little if any good-natured humor on the left (SNL being the exception). There's bitter condescending humor. Lotsa that (Bill Maher, Mikey Moore). Hatred & disrespect just don't make for particularly good comedy. The mainstream media routinely & repeatedly mock conservatives whenever they stub their toe, while virtually ignoring the gold mine of Biden gaffes & stuff like Congressman Johnson. They (MSM) want people to feel embarrassed about being conservatives - they just can't quite contemplate that conservatives should be extended any respect. Which is what made Letterman's surprisingly respectful interview of the Idaho Tea Party Chairwoman so newsworthy.
All of that while Biden & some of the Dems in Congress are making Quayle look like a genius.
I don't think they are trying to be funny in most instances... Its just a divide and conquer strategy thinly disguised as comedy. whenever politicians or their shills try to separate us by race or class it is something that should be shunned by voters. Heres just the latest example of race warfare
The thing is, Anthony R, most politicians are ill-equipped and lack the common sense/wherewithal to serve the people who elected them. That's why they are the butt of jokes and ridicule... and frankly, most of them deserve it. So whether it's Sarah Palin or Joe Biden, it doesn't matter... if they cock up they're going to cop it.
Oh, and the reason I've not served it up to Biden is that we never got/don't get much in the way of news on him here in Oz. Maybe during the next election we'll get enough fodder to mock him politically as well.
Of course not! While I usually consider politicians fair game, there are certain boundaries I will not cross... like John McCain's war record and being a POW, for example. To me, those things should never be made fun of or ridiculed, yet there were those who seemed to enjoy making a mockery of it.
I've made it no secret that I think Sarah Palin is an airhead, nor the fact that I believe she would be bad for the entire world if she ever attained high office (VP or President), and I will poke a bit of fun at her on those grounds, but I will not poke fun when it comes to her family (daughter becoming an unwed mother, etc) or private life. I can be irreverent when it comes to politicians public lives, but I draw the line at mocking their personal/family lives... those are private and should be respected as such.
'Magine that.
My apologies if anything I posted came off as angry. But look at it from our perspective; Alaska has been a mostly overlooked state for so long and then practically overnight we came into the limelight only to be seemingly represented by Sarah Palin and common misconceptions.
Also as far as political humor goes I used to find a lot of it funny (from both sides); I don't find it so anymore. Not because of the swing from right to left, but because it seems to have gotten so much more divisive (sp?) over the last 10 years. Nobody seems to be able to find any middle ground anymore. It irritates me that people can vote blindly along party lines even when they don't completely agree with all their policies. I'd fight to defend anyone's right to speak freely but if you're from the right or left and you genuinely hate anyone on the opposing side then feel free to drink the kool aid cause you're not helping.
Yes, at least Palin has done something - until she arrived I thought Alaska was part of Canada.
Alaska? is that part of the british empire?
Whether or not I am a vegetarian or not is immaterial. We are discussing a propensity to take life as sport. It is not 'sport'. Neither is any other form of violence.
I don't know. Don't hunters eat the game they catch?
As for animals that cannot be eaten, I understand there are quotas and some of them have to be killed in order to protect their prey.
To your first question:
To your second:
They can also be allowed to reach a dynamic equilibrium between themselves. Natural mechanisms work well when allowed to function. When we intervene there are usually unintended consequences.
On another level I feel you would be sympathetic with, Leauki... please read this LINK. I leave it in link form as I do not wish to offend anyone (המלבין פני חברו ברבים אין מקום בעולם הבא).
Most of my feelings about this topic have to do with צער בעלי חיים and אובדן צלם אנוש
Our news people obviously don't think Biden is very newsworthy. Now it's a different matter when it comes to Obama. All things Obama are considered newsworthy here... like if he had an ingrown toenail, they might even consider it important enough to break into a prime time show with a special news bulletin.
No, that didn't occur to me. My explanation was offerred to let you (and others) know that I'm just fooling around for the most part... and joking for most of the rest of it. Life is too short to be so darned serious about everything all the time, right?
Natural mechanisms can also cause situations that are equilibrium but that we don't want. That's why governments regulate these things.
As I said above, I cannot hunt. But I really don't see it as much worse than slaughtering animals. Palin is not Jewish, so while I do not like her hobby, I don't think I can judge her as long as she eats what she hunts or hunts predators that have to be controlled.
So we come back to motive. Hers are suspect to me. Always have been, and always will be. Just like every politician's.
Beyond that? You don't have to be Jewish to have compassion, Leauki, and that is fundamentally what it's about to me.
If one/one's family hungers? PLEASE hunt to feed them if there is no better alternative. If one hunts for the pleasure of killing a living animal? That's a wholly different matter. And it is distasteful to me. Any suffering that gives another being pleasure, is.
As for slaughtering penned animals raised to be food? Is that different from hunting? No, not really in my view as both involve suffering for the animals. I suppose we agree there as well. It would reflect better on us if we cared for animals and if necessary to end their lives, to do so in a manner which would not sicken one to contemplate.
As for governments helping? Oh yeahhhh.... Please let me survive, somehow, without their "help".
Take a look at how they've "helped" the world up until now.
Bush 41 went to war with Iraq in 91. The war never ended. Bush 43 did not start the war, he ended it. Learn the difference.
As Daiwa said, Magine that. The media coverng for a liberal politician! Magine that. However, media not covering an idiot in power in today's world is hardly an excuse for ignorance. There is Google and Bing. Your friends that shy away from the censorshtip the MSM denies it does. If you want to be taken seriously on your pontification on issues in the colonies, then it would be best to at least be aware of them, instead of just repeating what the International herald tribune prosetlysizes.
I find it amazing that some people today have such a weak grasp of history that they cannot differentiate between a war and an invasion.
Iraq and the US were at war since Iraq invaded Kuwait. (That was an invasion that STARTED a war.)
Iraq broke the cease-fire agreement several times.
Hence Clinton 42 bombed Iraq a few times and Bush 43 invaded. (That was the invasion that ENDED the war.)
Today Iraq is an ally of the US. Under Clinton Iraq was an enemy of the US. (I am not blaming Clinton for that.)
Bush Senior may have gone to war with Iraq to assist Kuwait, but there was a ceasefire between the US and Iraq. So, with the cessation of hostilities, the war in essence had ended, if not officially/on paper. Hence, Bush Junior's invasion of Iraq was a resumption of hostilities that turned out to be overkill based on a pack of lies and, according to the international community, illegal without UN sanction.
Anyway, that is all beside the point! I made a tongue-in-cheek comment to suggest Bush Junior over-stepped the mark, and it'll profit neither of us to debate the subject further... what's done is done.
Hey Dr G, again, let's not get too in depth here...
So the last thing I want is to be taken seriously when commenting with tongue-in-cheek on politicians... yours, ours or anybody elses. Politicians of all political persuasions worldwide are self-serving, lying, cheating sleazy scumbags, including all of ours, so until one commands respect by earning respect, they're ALL fair game to me.
Oh, and while I've served it up to Sarah Palin, it is not because she is a Republican or any other political flavour. It's simply because I saw/see her as an airhead who would be dangerous in any position of high power, that's it and nothing more... and certainly not because she's so-say a conservative. Clinton was/is a liberal, and I served it up to him over his dallyances in the Oval Office.... cos he deserved it, as does Palin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQCwnoMMqtA
I dont know if this will post as a link or if you'll have to cut and paste but this one's for you starkers. I'm not very computer literate but it's hilarious reguardless.
Yeah, Clarkie and Dawe have been making us laugh with politician parodies for years... brilliant, absolutely brilliant.BTW, thanks for the link, I hadn't seen that episode.
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