Do you think game companies are being hard on the people that actually buy they're games? Putting stuff like StarForce on they're games. Seems like they're combating the customers instead of the problem at hand, people that download games. Why don't they introduce a system which is full proof? It can't be that hard? Can it?
Ok, ok maybe im just rambling. People on the internet have been saying things like "zomfg newb. get conzoles. tehy r ftw". I just got a new computer, do developers expect me to go out and buy a $600AU dollar console? Just so i can play different games? Just because they're system of control is inferior?
P0st thoughts pl0x.
-beavs
P.S
I don't rip games!
Yes.
Ok i guess i should be a little more informative. I have D/L games on occasion to give them a whirl before buying them. I mount the game and test it out and if i like, i will but...if not in the trash bin it goes. I have probably D/L a total of 5 or 6 games in my lifetime.....just the games that look good but you just need to be sure, afterall $90AU on average for a game is far too much money to spend to find out it's a peice of crap.
Trainz 07...or something like that....biggest waste of my money ever.
I don't consider my self a pirate, sure i'm not helping the cause in any way, but thems the brakes.....
I've lot's of Impulse and Steam games, and also 12 years of PC games. I often download games, and when i (or my children) like them i buy them, the last examples were Mass Effect and Spore.
For all games I download no-cd cracks when possible, i don't like the cd hassle.
I'm not sure what my reaction will be when i hit the activation limit on installs. Maybe I will start pirating the other games from companies that rent games for full prize. But i first will wait how long it takes. And of course keep a no activation crack at hand...
What I like about steam and Impulse is the ease of getting a new computer up and running. Now if they starting to use the internet for their savegames.... Luckely i have a very good and stable ADSL.
Recently, I only buy games over the internet, stores are horrible at having what you want and if the game isn't available to buy over the internet, then its probally not worth playing. Steam / Direct2Drive and others are nice , and yeah when you format your comp, or buy a new one, being able to download it again w/o having to worry about a CD is great. CD's wear over time and for older games such as starcraft I've probally baught the battlechest 5x due to CD becomming unusable.
Well i don't mean downloading from steam and stuff, thats legal, i mean pirating of torrent websites etc..
Thanks for posts!
Is there any gamer that HASN'T downloaded a game?
Personally, I'd rather download a demo. Doesn't take so frickin' long.
No it doesn't, but it often does not represent the full experiance one get's with a game. But it is a viable alternative if your aversion to downloading is high enough. Nothing wrong with that....
i personlay can't download games becase i live in the middle of texas so no cable and stalite i have no idea when. so i have to go to SA and get them more of a hasale but at least when my computer crshers i don't have to go buy it agan unless its a steam product.
I have. I admit it, I'm one of those people the developers don't like who downloads a game to determine its worth to me.
Honestly, I wish I'd done it with Spore, and I did not - I went out and bought it and I do not think I'll see my fifty bucks worth on that game. It's not awful, but it's not a fifty dollar title to me. If I had downloaded it, I'd have deleted it and be waiting for the pricedrop to around 30.
Some games, especially by hit or miss game companies like EA, where you can't tell if a game will be good, decent, or have no effort in it at all, are just too risky for a fift dollar investment in the hopes the company won't use me and abuse me.
Playing a game you like for free from a torrent forever is wrong - buy it or delete it. But being jerked around by demos which are only the best five minutes of an overall crap game is also wrong - so I avoid both. A game is either bought within 48 hours, or removed from my drive.
I've used DLing as a demo system when demos are not available for games.
In the past, I've also installed pirated games for the express purpose of LAN parties where the group will be playing a game that I would normally never buy/play. I'm not trying to justify it, just saying that's what I've done.
On the flip side, I've purchased many more games then I've ever downloaded. At the time of this writing, I can't think of anything that I actually have installed that I havn't paid for.
Now, what I HAVE done is remove the CD check from everything. My normal install routine is: install, patch (if available), crack. I have actually not played games I've paid for because it's too much of a hassle to dig out the CD. Consider that in the context that all my CDs are in a binder beside me on the desk.
I know I'd have saved some money if I did...
Well, I grew up in Europe in a place where bootlegged stuff was (and still is) pretty wide spread (looking at you, Romania!), so I'd be lying if I said I never pirated a game.
That said, with digital distribution on the rise it's often faster, easier, and more reliable to just buy it from Impulse, Steam, D2D, Gamersgate, whatever than it is to pirate. I haven't pirated a game to play in a long long time. Having a job makes this especially easy, too. At least, one that allows you to live comfortably without worrying about saving pennies.
Yes. Games are expensive. Saving up enough money to buy my first computer was a challenge. Copyright infringement was pretty much the only avenue available for me to play most games.I shouldn't have though, I should have just skipped playing them. It may have led me to develop a wider range of interests instead of just playing video games all the time.
Probably not the best outcome for the video game industry though
AOE2, someone swore it was my kind of game, the demo was ungodly bad. I downloaded it, played a bit, bought it, the first one, and the expansions.
Homeworld, I actually got cataclysm first and was curious about the differences, the fucker was one hard to find game in Squarebanks Alaska, but I've bought them all. Patience is a virtue I lack, I do however have the vices of complacency and procrastination, so I get to skip the need to accomplish tasks.
Lets see, some old dos games I no longer have the disks to, MOM, MOO, Wolfenstein, although all of these are public domain anyway.
In the fuck you I'm not buying this shit category, Age of Wonder:Shadow Magic. Ok people, this game might be tolerable in it's own right, but it is to Master of Magic what my asshole is to a source of fuel. Worse in every aspect but graphics, no thanks.
Yeah, that's really it, I'm not a very good serial copyright infringer. In fairness to reality, it is kinda hard to steal shit on the bandwidth limited satellite connection I have now. I've also bought a lot of my games indirectly as a result of piracy, including Stardock games, and not because they're anti-drm. I know two prolific pirates that steal everything before buying, and tend to buy rather infrequently. I'd guess half of all games I've bought have been recommended by selective people that pirated them. The rest are either sequels, recommendations from selective people that didn't pirate, or games with damn good demo's. Reviews get about as much attention from me as paint dried on a wall.
Ohh, i dunno, when the Hillz is on tv i can spend that time curiously studying the dried paint....
I have never downloaded a game. I have purchased pirated copies of various games in Thailand and Indonesia in the past, and the ones I have liked, I have gone on to purchase legitimate copies. Playing a pirated copy just isn't the same IMHO. It's not just the guilt factor, but actually owning the box and manual just feels so much more satisfying. Even with legitimate downloaded games it feels as if you have the real thing, whereas a pirated version could have missing movies or files, etc, and the developers get no benefit. Not that long ago the closest I came to downloading a game was to download a crack to unlock the trial version of a demo, and it put a virus on my computer! Not going to do it again, If you play a demo where available and spend time researching the game, you can generally make a wise purchase.
Owning the box and manual isn't always an attraction for me. I buy so many games that I tend to prefer the ones that come in the dvd-style packaging, otherwise the boxes just take up too much space.
And yeah, trying to download cracked copies or pirated versions is risky. Much better to download from Impulse
I've never DLed a game. I buy them all (after doing some research on them and checking with friends that have them to see if they're something I may like). So far I've been lucky in that I've not actually bought a title I actively hate. There are a few that were just so-so, but none that I actually felt were a waste of money. Another 'advantage' (if you will) that I have is I don't feel the need to have something hot off the shelf, so I'm willing to wait and see how things shake out with a game if I'm unsure of it.
I once did, but now am the proud owner of over 300 original games !!! I try to be patient waiting for the price to fall ... sometimes not that easy, but on the other hand recently i bought 120 games that are only about 1 to 1.5 years old all for $1000 AUD delivered to my door ($8 AUD per game !). Also didn't have to worry about patching them as most of them are re-releases !!!
Those must be very bad games.
StarForce is awful for the legit user to deal with.
About controls, that depends on the game -- and what it's designed specifically for. So, if you buy a PC game that ONCE was made for the consoles, you better have a PC gamepad, just in case the KB/mouse controls are botched. And namely these days, the only gamepad getting official support all the time is the X360 Gamepad for Windows.
Now, in general...
Normally, I find driving games much better with a gamepad for me.
Strategy games, I'd rather do the click-and-point thing w/ KB/mouse.
For shooters, give me the precise KB/mouse combo.
For brawlers (like Mortal Kombat), give me the gamepad.
Sports games (like Madden series), gamepad please.
I have never illegally downloaded either a game, or any other product be it software, music, or movies.
I didn't say illegally.
I didn't say that you did.
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