Greetings fellow game lovers. I'd like to give some info about Fallout 3 and discuss about it.
Little bio:
Fallout 1: Developed & Published by Interplay
Fallout 2: Developed by Black Isle Studios, Published by Interplay
Cancelled Fallout 3: (Codename Van Buren) Developed by Black Isle Studios, Cancelled by Interplay at 75%
Fallout 3: Being Developed & will be Published by Bethesda Softworks
Ah, the game that thought me English, when I was at my childhood...
You can get the Van Buren photos if you search a little, or just ask me and I can post some of the Van Buren photos here. Van Buren was finished by 75% when Interplay disbanded the BIS team and fired them. Game mechanics and anything else than maps, story was the only ones left to finish. But Interplay handed the Fallout title (not Fallout Online title) to Bethesda Softworks. Van Buren was intending to keep original gameplay, with same camera angle but this time all 3D, but Fallout 3 by Bethesda Softworks is going to ALTER the gameplay completely.
Alter?
Have you ever played any of the Elder Scroll series? The first I was played was Daggerfall (Elder Scrolls II), then I played Morrowind (which was a HUGE world for me, I was playing it day and night. Watching sky in-game and enjoying it!!!). Then Oblivion came out and took my expectations for the next Elder Scroll game to another dimension! But, when I heard that BS (Bethesda Softworks) is going to make Fallout 3, WITHOUT using any previous Van Buren codes (meaning: developing from start, taking only Fallout world to adopt). Then a battle started inside me...
Battle?
Yes, a battle. I'm a GAME LOVER, for example, I play Civilization 4, Galactic Civilizations 2, HOMM 5, Doom III, FEAR, CS, Red Alert 2, this and that, nearly every title that you can see on the game markets. But some games have a special place for me. Especially RPG games, and among RPG games, all of the Black Isle titles (Fallout, Lionheart, ...), Elder Scrolls Series, all of the Bioware titles (Baldur's Gate, ...). In short, the battle within is a fight caused by the 2 joining games, gameplay of Morrowind-Oblivion travels to Fallout dimension. But I'm lucky a bit that I will play Fallout 3 aswell, because I like Fallout, I like Morrowind-Oblivion, so it'll be great for me to see everything 3D with immense graphics on Fallout world... But;
But?
Many of my old comrades are saying that they never liked Oblivion, or Morrowind, and transferring Fallout world into a Elder Scrolls kinda place is a reason for them not to play that game. They don't like FPS, and you know, Oblivion-Morrowind is kind of a FPRPG (first person role playing game ???)
Your opinions.
What do you think? Is it a great thing to do (joining 2 games (gameplay + world))? First question should be this, do you like Fallout and Elder Scrolls? Then answer previous question.
And lastly, if you havent, check Fallout 3 videos. There are 5 gameplay videos. And if you would like to see how Van Buren was going to look, I can post links here.
In Follout 1 I prefered to use meele-combat (weapon less or a Hammer) and Pistols. Pistols in short range were just funny. Huh, you want to run away, not with me - bang - Oh, my leg.
I hope in Falout 3 the Henchmen will stop shooting my back or standing in my line of fire. They died too often in Fallout 2 just too stupid actions (charge with low life into a mutant army, while I told them to run away or entered my line of fire, while they had more than enough space not to).
Do we even know if there are henchmen in FO3?
Having had a chance to play fallout 2: Good-God this game is hard!!! Maybe I just built my character badly, but geez!! Every fight I'm in: 4-5 raiders! Equal to or stronger than me! Did I fail to pick up my superman undies in the beginning or something? I wasn't before, but now I'm kind of looking forward to fallout 3. I still don't appreciate the first person view (NWN2 > Oblivion), but at least I get to use some of my (limited) skill to make up for any character weaknesses.
OTOH, I can't state enough how much I hate the first person view. IMO it's less realistic than than isometric. With isometric, at least you can adjust the fog to make for realistic line of sights. With fp, you're stuck with this no-necked horse in blinders. Not to mention that you now have some kind of hearing disorder where all sound is heard equally for all directions (depending on speaker setup of course). Far, far from realistic
On sort of a tangent: Anyone have any fallout 2 hints? I do know about the powered armor in the beginning, but I'd rather avoid getting it since it's more of a game breaker than valid game progression.
Depends on how much time you want to spend. The merchant in the inn in Klamath usually sells leather armor (not the jacket). It's expensive, around $2000 depending on your barter, so to afford it you can run around Klamath and run into those Trappers vs Geckos or just Geckos (if you already learned how to skin them) fights. If you help the geckos kill the trappers, they usually carry a bunch of gecko skins and if you get golden skins that's a lot of $$$. It can be tough if you've only got a spear, but they tend to focus on the geckos anyway. And then when you go do the rat infestation in Klamath you get your 10mm pistol, har. If you built your character to have a high Small Arms score by that point, you can snipe the eyes from fairly far away
In general, though, every town usually has the someone vs someone random encounters, so you can run around and let them fight it out and loot the guns after. Once you get the car, you can even drive down to San Francisco and pick up a bunch of cool guns (G11 is a favorite), or some miniguns from super mutants! Though this is cheesing it also.
I've seem the gameplay video. It certainly looks like they got the atmosphere right, but my first impression is, how is this Fallout? There didn't seem much left of the orginal gameplay at all. It was a first person shooter with some light RPG elements thrown in, that is all. It would be a good Fallout spinoff perhaps, but not Fallout 3.
I mean that would be like making a first person shooter out of Heroes of Might and Magic and calling it HOMM6. Completely changing the format while keeping a few similar elements is not making a sequal, it's making a spinoff, which is fine (HOMM is itself a spinoff of the Might and Magic series, for example) but not the same thing at all as a sequal.
My Dad for, example, liked the Fallout games, but he does not like FPS at all. He definitely would not like this new Fallout.
Like I said before, we have to give it a chance before we make any prejudges.
The atmosphere and world look for me like Fallout, I just don't know if the game itself will do it too. To bad that we don't get any kind of demo of this game. I'm sure it would help some people with the decision of buying it.
Guys, I'd call Oblivion anything but a "light" RPG. And Fallout 3 will be at least equal to it, probably better. The thing is, the kind of RPG Oblivion is differs vastly from more traditional RPG games such as Baldur's Gate or Neverwinter Nights. The latter type is heavily scripted with a rich storyline, the former is a sandbox RPG where you make up your own story for most of the time. Calling Fallout 3 a FPS with some light RPG elements is like calling Oblivion a "hack n' slash with some light RPG elements". Now, I don't know about others, but the most roleplaying I ever did in a single player game was in Oblivion. My warrior character took off his armor in the evenings before getting to sleep. Read books, ate and drank regularly, even took brisk morning runs to keep up the stamina. Of course, got drunk regularly too. Brawled a lot, ended up in jail a lot. Stole anything that wasn't nailed down. Got run off from three cities in a row. Set up camps in woods, hunted deer for pelts, ran from bears, swam in rivers, hunted goblins and collected their tribe shields, dabbed in alchemy...
Granted, most of my RPG enjoyment came with the mods, but the engine was built in such a way to allow for that freedom. If Fallout 3 turns out to be anything like Oblivion, I am one happy roleplayer. Especially since now I can actually blow someone's head off for being cheeky.
Well, truth is, I'm pretty far along. I have metal armor MkII and a pretty nice sniper rifle....but NOW I'm stuck. Enemies are just too hard. It's like scaled leveling all over again, but hard, unlike oblivion...
I guess, there'll be. In Oblivion, there were people following you, especially if you've played Oblivion with Knights of the Nine plug-in. When you complete that storyline, you can order your members to follow you - kind of henchman system. And I really love to have it again, but as an improved version of Fallout 2. If I remember right, Keith was able to use gauss rifles if he levels with you. Deathclaw is a perfect meleer, and that sheriff mutant is an extraordinary minigun-style weapon user. And, I just love BOZAR
That's what makes Oblivion and Morrowind lovely for me. I like to experience that world in 3D.
Myself, I was always attached to the cyber puppy you "get" from the scientist at Navarro (at least I think that's where it was) after politely asking him if the room he's in is sound-proof. The way you get it sort of explains why I was attached to it
Bethesda mislead people through the entire development of TES:Oblivion [go on, look at the e3 videos vs. the final product]... I won't buy it up front... Will never buy another game up front from Bethesda... they lost their credibility in my book...
To me, this looks like the same crap as Oblivion in a more grungy, apocalyptic setting... How do the mechanics work? Is it the same broken crap I found in Oblivion? If so, pass.
Hm, the preview writers are writing good words about it. Of cause you can't bet on such thing, they oft hype games ...
So, the only way to find it out is to wait for the release and first reviews from player's and not any lind of magazines.
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