For some people, marriage between two people of the same sex insults their sensibilities. (and that is putting it mildly!) It is religiously wrong, because they have some document that proves that it is wrong. It trumps their sense of right and wrong. All the implications that can be thought of for why this should not be, they will find it!
There are so many boxes that have been created in our lives. Everything we do and all that we represent fits in those boxes. You can't be a cirle and fit in a square box, that doesn't work. You're going against the grain, against all that is natural, known and dare I say holy? In essense homosexuals do not fit the roles or the boxes that we have created in this life! Not in our lifetime, not in our backyards!
Am I being immoral because I have no objections to people of the same sex marrying each other? Some people do think that, I have no doubt about that. Same sex marriage is not an abomination of marriage in general, or against God as some like to quote. Same sex marriage does not make my own heterosexual marriage unimportant or less than what it is. What matters fundamentally is the right of each individual to choose the path that is their God-given right to do.
Although the legal papers now says that these people have the right to marry whomever they choose, they still do not have the legal rights, all the rights that a man and a woman in a marriage do. They won't be able to file taxes together, they won't be able to get all the benefits that a man and a woman in a marriage can from the government, if they need it, because although the law says they are allowed to marry, they are still not equal or legal in every aspects of their lives.
The article I have linked above, written by John Cloud, defines and clarify some of the things the California rulings does or does not do with the confusion to many about Gay marriage.
Marriage between homosexuals doesn't take away our rights as heterosexual individuals just because two men or two women seek to marry each other, but those who object gladly seek to take away what is a fundamental right of each person, their freedom!
Karma,
I don't dispute that AIDS has affected the gay community more so than the wider community. But that is not the point I was trying to make.
This is the point I was trying to make, that the disease is NOT a 'gay' disease, per se. The statistics you quote are well and good, but are only American-based statistics. Have a look at the African stats, for instance, to see what 'not pretty' really means.
Now, now, SC. I'm sure he's perfectly well adjusted.
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Good question. How does it hurt you?
I think too many people see homosexual relationships as vulgar and disgusting...and that is why they are so against these types of unions. Yes, of course there are vulgar and disgusting homosexuals out there...just as there are vulgar and digusting heterosexuals.
My God is a loving, accepting being...loving and accepting no matter what your sexual preference is. I say if a relationship is formed out of love and respect, then it is deserving of being taken to the next step of marriage.
Maybe this bothers me because I have close relatives who are gay...and I care for them and want the best for them...including them finding someone to love and be with for the rest of their lives.
Maybe this bothers me because I have close relatives who are gay. I care for them, and want the best for them. I want to see them find that special someone whom they will spend the rest of their lives with.
And I guess this is all that a marriage is about right?!
Our lives is about nothing but sex, sex, sex, sex, sex,.....what esle is there to look forward to. God had nothing else in mind when he created us.....all those teachings to his disciples was for nought, right? Totally made no sense!
Once our mindset are a cetain way, there's nothing else that we live by, even our moral codes are confused!
I'm failing to see what the big upset is. Marriage is going to be 'un-sacred' because gays are allowed to get married? Religion will no longer be what it is or mean what it does, because gays get married? Marriage is a religious institution? I thought it was a blessing from God for people who love each other and cared about each other to get hooked up and live their lives in loving peaceful co-existence or is it not?
Well said Rose!
Marriage is NOT a religious institution, not in the slightest. There are some religions who have developed marriage ceremonies in line with their beliefs but marriage itself is very much a social institution.
That would be declaring something that is pseudo or fake as real.
This is you allowing your religious convictions to have bearing on a civil ceremony. Marriages ceremonies are rich, diverse and, as you rightly point out, have been around for a heck of a long time. But times change and the definition of society, family etc has changed from those ancient times.
You don't like the idea of a homosexual couple getting married, well that is your perogative. But it doesn't make their ceremony any less real than yours.
It bothers the hell out of me!!!!!
Not because I'm a homophobe or don't believe homosexuals have the right to get married but because I have to hear so-called Christians spew their hate under the guise of 'hating the sin not the sinner' bullshit.
Doc, I'm not trying to argue with you, but in this instance, you're not actually correct. I have looked at a number of historys of marriage and these all say that while the ceremony has been coopted by a lot of religions, the actual idea has been around a long, long time and was a social institution, not a religious one.
Interesting facts:
- The ring, for instance, was a pagan symbol of eternity, used to 'bind' the woman to the man.
- In some instances, the brother-in-law of a widow had to marry her to keep her in the family.
- The Britons used marriage as a way of strengthening political ties to more powerful families.
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