In light of the uproar over Miley Cyrus' "scandalous" photograph ,[https://forums.joeuser.com/310120/page/1/#1719278], so vastly overrated! I’m all for protecting our children and I am not certainly in favor of them being forced to grow up before their time. In other words, doing or getting involved in anything that is not for them because they are too young and don’t need to be involved with anything that would be bad for them!
Braeden, aka Sancho Nino made a comment on the blog that I wrote regarding the scandal, it was an interesting and enlightening response which made me go ‘hmmm..” and gave me more food for thought.
Sancho Responded:
“Maybe this is my newly-installed European sensibilities talking, but I don't get what all the fuss is about.Went to the beach today. Saw hundreds of naked tits. Some of them on girls Miley's age.And guess what? BFD. It's her back; it's not a seductive pose at all; and come on, people.If folks be getting horny off stuff like this they need help anyway.”
Notice my emphasis on the first thing he said. “Newly-installed European sensibilities”! It got me asking myself, “Do we Americans get too hot and bothered too easily?” “Do we tend to over-think and over-dramatized and tend to get too hot and bothered too quickly over everything, or at least most things?” “Are we too prudish in our outlook, or maybe we are just too sensitive to our sexuality”! The word itself seems to get us (speaking generally) all uptight!
Braeden said that he was at the beach and saw hundreds (I know he was probably exaggerating, but it made his point!) of naked tits. It is such a natural thing Europeans take so naturally, almost as if it’s as natural as breathing!
They don’t hide (I’m talking out of my mouth here – tongue in cheek – i.e. I don’t have facts, but merely from what I’ve read and some of the people I know) their bodies as much as we seem to do. They are not scared of talking openly about sex and nudity the way we seem to be. They are a pretty open (liberal, inhibited) bunch of people!
We tend to be too serious all the time when maybe we should laugh at something or not take it in the manner it seems to present itself, i.e., at face value!
In our lives, so many of us are under strict rules and policies all the time. So much so that we take these types of rules into our personal lives (unconsciously) and that is how we become so stressed!
I know there are a few of us who do take it easy and not let things bother us. But there is the other 80% who most times because of religion, turn into faceless people who adhere to only one thing, one way of living, one way of doing everything! So we end up looking at life through these dark glasses and we don’t see beyond the lines that have been crossed for us.
Don't get me wrong, when it comes to our children, we are very protective of them, as we should be, however, there are times when we put our own insecurities on them and which becomes their burden.
I know it’s not easy being a parent, more than anything else, I don’t even like to think that I’m a failure as a mom, because there are times I do feel like one. Especially given the situation with my older daughter, leaving home early, that was a hard pill to swallow. But as I told my husband recently, she might not have gone on the path we wanted her to go, but she is making her own way, and she is doing alright, she is just doing it on her own terms. I think that is all our children want from us. As we as adults would want from our own bosses, or friends, or our spouses. For someone to believe in us, trust us, and let us be to take our own path in life.
There will be times when it’s necessary to over re-act, when it is appropriate, like when children are being abused, but there are just some times, as in the case of a simple photograph, when over reaction is too much.
I do think Americans get 'hot and bothered' about anything perceive to be sexual. Look at movies the ratings board has no problem with movies with extreme violence but movies with sex scenes are look at harsher. Some movies even have to cut scenes (and I'm not talking about nudity) to avoid the dreaded NC-17 rating.
It'll be nice if we got 'hot and bothered' over worthy causes?
This photo would not be appropriate for MY daughter. Not at 15 and not for public consumption.
If it isn't about sexualizing a minor, then why have the top gone in the first place? Wouldn't the picture have been just as good with it on?
And here's what really gets me about this whole deal.
Billy Rae Cyrus (her dad) was on set all day before leaving a couple hours before wrap up. Why wait for him to leave before doing this? Why not ask him? And if it was so innocent why is she now saying how embarrassed she is? That she wishes she didn't do it?
Take nudity out for a minute and ask yourself this....if you were with your kid at a photo shoot all day in which she wore jeans and a blouse, and as soon as you left they put her in a bikini without ever mentioning it, or asking permission...wouldn't you be pissed?
I would.
And then to have her regret it...if it wasn't wrong to her then she wouldn't be so sorry she did it. She wouldn't be on national tv saying it was a mistake and she was embarrassed.
I feel for the kid. She was taken advantage of by people she obviously trusted, publically humiliated by them. That's the bigger crime imo.
Great answer, Tova.
The media got what it wanted. They been trying to get her to be a tabloid star for awhile. Another teen star to exploit and sell millions of magazines. They also been trying to catch the cheerleader girl from 'Heroes' doing something. What gets me is people spend money on all that bullshit.
Let me make it clear that I don't think Europeans are better than we are, are us being better than them. I also dont' think it's appropriate for a child to be sexualized!
The fact that there is a sheet covering her is also questionable. I don't think that either Miley or the photograher thought that photo would have been perceived the way it was at all. They probably just wanted to give her a different look, see how she would be looking like that. Albeit now they both see it wasn't a wise decision. Although I really can't speak for them both, but having seen some of the photographer's work, I doubt she intended to secualize Miley.
She was wrong in doing the picture without the parents knowlege. Who knows, maybe they agreed to it being published after seeing it and didn't think it would create such a firestorm!
I think when it comes to sex and our sexuality, we are so uncomfortable because we think it is something that is a big no-no and hush hush and treat it in such a manner that even our children are afraid and think it's wrong. Some people won't even touch or kiss (chastely) in front of their children.
We do tend to sexualize everything. We do it in the same way that we treat somone one of another race. We think first of race, then we think of sexuality and that is how we become so embroiled in definitions that we have somehow forgotten that not everything is about blatant sex!
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