The United States is estimated to produce between 1/5 to 1/3 of the world's food production. We are the World's largest exporter of grain. Unless you can eat about 1/4 less food, im sure you miss the US for more than movies.
No simply look at history, it is forever repeating itself, like the britan empire, The roman empire they all rise and they all will fall one day, and americas no different.
Where did you get those numbers from snowboard? A quick googling appeared to reveal a number close to 10-15% for % of world production produced in the US.
He probably means export wise. Yes some countries produce more food than US, but most countries need this food for themselves. Many countries require food imports, without which there would be quite a bit of starvation. For example, China produces more food than US, but it is a net importer of food. So if China disappeared, no one would go hungry, in fact there would be more food to go around.
How can anyone think America will always be a superpower and not be delusional? Unless someone has figured out to make the perfect government and cured all diseases and solved world hunger and created permanent world peace then no of course America will not always be a superpower.
I am always dismayed to see people acting like America will be around for a billion years or something. No nation has ever lasted for all of human history and those that were very long lived eventually collapsed or were destroyed or became a mere shadow of their former selves. Take the British government for example. They are long past their prime. America will inevitably be the same just as the Roman Empire, the Byzantine Empire, the Babylonian Empire, the Greeks, etc. etc.
If we were to stop raising animals and use the feed itself, America could feed at least 700-800mil. people. (not too mention all the land it'd free up.)
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1997/08/970812003512.htm
If we started using rabbits (the flemish giant is one good breed in particular,) we'd see much MUCH greater efficiency in protien rich diets. Take a look (yeah, I know its just a pic, but this is just to give you an idea. My friend owns one, it eats mice. No joke.) Fast breeding, larger litters, and good diet efficiency, these things are almost as good as ostriches. At any rate, cows suck in comparison.
http://www.hoax-slayer.com/giant-rabbit.shtml
Hemp is another industry that isn't being used efficiently in America. I'm not just talking about pot; textiles, medicine, fuel, food, the crop has it all. Its the ideal cash crop & our founding fathers are turning in their graves right now over this one. Anyone who says otherwise is a tool or lying. Or both. As for all those "moralists" that try to be politicos & say, "our founding fathers never got high," I'd have to say: there's a damn good reason why George W. bitched in his diaries about not getting his females apart from the males.
"We shall, by and by, want a world of hemp more for our own consumption."
>John Adams. "Make the most you can of the Indian Hemp seed and sow it everywhere."
> George Washington. Notice how he says indian hemp. "Hemp is of first necessity to the wealth & protection of the country." > Thomas Jefferson.
So I guess that covers it, grain, livestock, and wondercrop. War becomes a matter of choice once a nation posseses nukes. If we were doing these things I might just belive that we could last indefinately. But such is not the case.
Anywho, yeah. America rocks while being inefficient. One day we'll fall. It is inevitable.
But on that day, you'll all be glowing in the dark (:
anteachtaire, Of all the thread-synaptic anarchy, yours shows some promise. America, as stated in the original post, is not a nation, but many nations... including Brazil and the brillient minds at Stardock.. Canada. This was on purpose. When the blunt focus of rants form the rest of the world point to "America", I am guessing their meaning is the USA. I am a citizen in the USA and I call myself an American, not because I think I own the largest Northern and Southern hemispherical land mass, but because I know that our specie can not survive on primiative instincs any longer. Thank goodness, the founders of my country created a nation with to many sylabols for octolcracy rants. Can you imagine it... "I am a United Statesian". I believe, and I hope I can get some feed back, that the reason the US has been so successful is because in every intelligent, sentient human ever born, that in their "mind of heart" beleives that we started something original, that shows our commitment to humanity as a specie. Sure, there's alot that doesnt work right and alot that needs fixin'. What are the alternatives? Communistic Capitolism? Religeous Dictatorships? Nationalistic Dominions? If we stray, as a specie, from working together from the betterment of all, including the individual quality of life, it will be at the risk of everything we stood for including the question "Is mankind a worthwhile creation?" No one thing makes for a superpower. Technology can be erased with the chain of knowlege. Engineering with infrastructure. Society with betrayal. The US problems of the last decade have everything to do with distrust. The Republican charge to the whitehouse marred with personal greed and leaving a trail of broken promises including a wholesale dismantalisation of "the new deal" squeezed behind the wealthy artificaily weighting inflation so that the quality of life would be squeezed to fit trade with china. So here is my rant back;
China, Keep being fiscaly restrained and watch how economics alone can be a bowling gutterball.
Russia, Find your identity and start getting involved... what are you waiting for? Money is just paper unless you act with compassion and courage. Dont mimic our stock market. Professors from the cold war have finaly educated this generation into pure idiot-greed mongers. Remember Khrushchev? His plan to agitate and condition US capitolists into greed mongers has worked flawlessly. Pavlov would be proud to see how what should be considered intelligent can be conditioned to blindly kill each other. It is true that capitolism can matabolise to eat anything, including its environment, physical and social. Skull and crossbones sat idlely by while the public was being raped.
India, Apply your moral distinctions but dont loose your identity otherwise you will be burried by your own industry and over-population.
Brazil, Good for you! Hope you make it and keep it. We have learned what it means when they say "Be carefull what you wish for". Economic persuations can enslave a population like no other social mechanism. Try an remember that the US faught communism and drug lords to give you that chance or at least some manifest destiny.
Europe, You make us proud. Try to keep working together. You may have the long term solution. We are glad we had a chance to make it possible.
The rest of the world; follow your conscience, when the US falls, god help us all what rises to fill the void and the termoil it will produce.
To my fellow US'ians; you were so conservative you forgot to breeth, think, feel. It is your lack of compassion and empathy for the human you dont know that has caused your demise. Since you are solely focused on "the DOLLAR", you have more dollar stores than any other nation. They arent sustainable either... nothing is... but change. What were you thinking we'd change into when you listened to the auto-makers "steady as she goes.." montra? Yeah... not any one thing caused the US demise. I am not sure it is preventable... but here is the list of things that might slow the decay,
1) clean-up the inner cities and infrastructure! WTF are you waiting for? Get each city to focus on a green technology posture and compeat. Kill gangs, I mean genocide! If it has a tatoo and flicks hand signs, kill it! This is primal tribalism and reason for systemic decay.
2) You talk about budgets and taking social security... stop it. IT IS PAPER! That paper aint worth shit to have another rot hole society that feeds aristocrates and steals from workers. Our founders were unique, aristocrates, yes, but involved in the country's wellbeing. Not the "Another CIO rumpranger for sell". "Board- bored of making something... found better money in submarining the business"- be back later. The price for this betrayal needs to be paid! Keep the social programs until every last one of them has a yard sale. "Your balance is, money is only as good as the promise. The promise was paid with american lives. Not to come home to service jobs that prey on vapor consumerism, or some ambiguous self-serving "America for sale" scheme.
Opps. Was that me?
Sorry Moderators. I got tourettes..... and didnt know I had it. dawg gone French
I think that america will eventually fall. This will happen because every empire has fallen and america is no exception. A few problems are wars, econimic problems, corruptin, etc. I dont think that america will fall soon and it will probably be slow spiral into collapse also
United States Of Amercia,
Finally manages to piss the world off by invading 'antarctica' because they belive polar bears are now carrying C4 explosives, and are working for al-kaeda. lol
What I would love to see is this:
British Commonwealth of nations
(United Kingdom, Ireland, Canada, India, Australia, Nepal, South Africa)
vs
United States Of Amercia
Europeon Union
The Alliance of East Asia and Europe
(Russia, China, N.Korea)
MAY GOD HELP US ALL
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN
[_]-BlackHawk
If China disappeared, India will replace it as the default world manufacturing center, or maybe we will have south america to do it.
Wow after almost two years this post is still going strong...
He says after rezzing it out of 40 days mold...
China and India represent a modern shift in what defines a (future) superpower over previous ones. Initially Europe, the UK in paticular, had operated in a very overt method of direct control by colonization. The US and Soviet Union followed a somewhat more covert method during the cold war. China's behavior is realitively benign by comparison. It is not actually conquering nations but focuses on expanding itself in any way possible. That includes consuming any foreign resource available to further fuel that expansion.
To sum up visually, if European imperialism, polarized Cold war states, and China could be different types of cancer then imagine the first two classified malignant while China would be a benign case and contained until of course it grows too big or mutates into something else.
Not with the Socialist (oops I mean Modern Democrats) in charge. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck then it must be a duck
Well we (US) just need to beat the record set by the Romans (1000 years or so.)
No America will not always be on top as others say (and I'm a proud America well with the exception of are current Socilist leader.) I think that what we will see as time moves on is a move toward a one world government and then that government being made up and blended with Governements from around the world will then be the world power. I just hope it will be a Democratic Captilist government. But we will see.
why the hell do so many people think that Obama is socialist? He's right wing... borderline republican.
Because some of us actully listens to what he and his Democrat croonies say instead of allowing the media to destract us. I have a question for you how come when a Repulican does something wrong the Obama media jumps thier thier shit but when a Democrat does something wrong you will rarely hear a peep about it. I remember a time not so long a go when the media would jump anyones shit Rep or Dem but now they have moved to the left. And this above all else is the most troubling.
All I know is Obama has spent a HELL of alot more money in his first year then Bush did in the midst of the Iraq War. Im not defending Bush believe me he was an idiot.
But seriously, Bush didnt start this recession...why someone would blame something that started back before clinton confuses me. But Obama has admitted he his plan to fix the economy isnt working. And its been known since before Obama got into office that those stimulis packets werent trickling down to where it needed to go in the banks and institutions grabbing for federal money. Yet he continued to sign the damn things after he got in office. And with every stimulus we learn about more and more companies mismanaging the federal funds their given to pull their asses out of debt.
I know Obama wasnt in office during this time, but its the prime example why federal funding to save these corrupt corporations should have stopped when he took the oath. AIG went bankrupt....(when a corp goes belly up you can bet your sweet ass its the people at the top to blame) yet AIG immediately starts handing out Bonus's to the idiots directly at fault for the companies money woes.
The point is this guy is no better then Bush. They might have different issues to contend with, but their lack of knowledge about what they are making decisions on is baffling. The fact they need an advisor whos an expert on the subject telling them the right course of action hints at the fact that he may very well be getting false information fed to him and making the wrong decisions about issues the country is facing.
Im just tired of picking between the nutjobs and the idiots and choosing the lesser of two evils. I want some real canidates with something to actually bring to the table. Not someone who cant stick to his own agenda or isnt intelligent enough to make a decision without having his VP whispering in his ear what to do.
sure, whatever you say.
I cant imagine how Obama could be right wing. That doesnt make even the slightest sense.
Which reminds me that the United States government is definitely not going to remain a superpower if the populace is ignorant and cares more for a stupid show (American Idol) than the political process. Democracy relies on an educated populace who makes intelligent or at least well thought out decisions.
The United States started declining when people started voting for the prettiest face or minorities just because hes a minority. Half the people dont even know what Obama supports or advocates for.
It's a matter of perspective. Compared to Mussolini, Bush was a hippie. I could see how someone in a parliamentary system, where parties run the gamut, might think that Obama was centrist or center-right.
American politics as a whole is very (very very) "right wing," thus even the most "liberal" politicians are often only middle of the road at best. Sure, there are a few uber-left wingers, but they usually don't ever get elected. Obama is to the right of center; ask any political professor and they could explain it much better than I could.
yeah, with the people who've taken political science on one side and the people who play WOW during class on the other, lol.
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