None of the assets are stolen.  They're all used with permission.

Uhhh I am a level 80 orc actually you racist.

Now, i understand... DukkaSSP ( Christopher ) is not a troll but one of your guys from the "Dawn of victory" mod... you have not yet accepted that you was banned from the Danmangame forum due to your behaviour... have try to register several time with other nickname but without success...

It is not about trolling but reveange... like little children... in place of try start a mod war, best to keep your energy for your own mod, so that maybe someday, it will have a first public release... don't worry, we will never put ourself on your low level and disturb your topic with attack...

About stolen assets... the UZI planet mod was given by UZI to Danman... Curious to know how much other mod use the work of UZI without permission... Manshooter/Balknight effect is used by a bunch of other mods too... for the rest of asset, it is mainly developed on the Danmangame forum... in fact, some of our assets are used by other mod too, without making any problem... by example, some of my models made on Danmangame can be found in the DS mod ( arcadia ), in the BSG mod, in the Halo mod, in the Vermillion sector mod, in the B5 mod, in the Starwar mod, in one of the stargate mod, etc... in fact, we don't stole, we share !!!

Let see a other member of Danmangame, EvilTesla... a codder... for how much mod have he make some codding work, creating some really original abilities... again sharing, not stole... or Koobalt, a other modeler from Danmangame who have make model for a lot of other mods too...

That you and Dan don't like each other is not a reason for insult all the people working for various mod on Danmangame and call us thief... if you have problem with Dan, keep this on a personal level via e-mail, PM or face-to-face meeting on a box ring but don't insult the other people working there... be a adult and not a kid !!!

If I wanted my first name to be put on display in these forums I would of done it myself.

I will see you in court mister.

First just let me say that the reason my comrade and I are “trolling” this thread has nothing to do with the fact I was banned from your forums. Indeed, how you managed to figure out my second account was indeed me and ban it as well, is puzzling, maybe I should have called it something other than “NotSwissKnight”.  There’s also the fact that your forums are so horribly broken that none of your bans actually work and I can still post there freely, but I digress.

No, the reasons I have come to disdain 7 Deadly Sins and Danman Games in particular are too numerous to remember, but I shall attempt to list as many as I can.

But first… a history!

I became active in ye ole modding scene in the ancient era of 2003, Return of the King has just come out, as well as Freddy vs Jason, and the world was looking good. Over the next few years I got to be part of some great mods such as Blitzkrieg II for C&C Generals, Halogen, Call to Arms, etc etc.

When I finally started work on my own mod, I vowed to follow a set of rules to make sure that our project, if not popular could at least be respected. They were simple guidelines really; never release any unskinned or unfinished models, make sure any media released by the mod was up to a certain standard, and perhaps the most important, any media included in the mod needed to be created specifically for the mod, or at the very least, in the public domain.

Our project isn’t just a mod, but something our staff can use as a work reference. Our staff works on our project because they know that we won’t release anything that would reflect poorly on their hard work. So far, I think we’ve been successful in this regard; one of our concept artists got a job working on a graphic novel, while our lead 3d artist used his work on DoV to get a job working on aerospace simulators. If I had to choose between releasing DoV at a state comparable to Seven Deadly Sins, and not releasing at all, I wouldn’t hesitate.

Of course, this is a personal preference, if you say that the models and effects in Seven Deadly Sins are used with permission fine, but I wonder if you got permission to use any of the music you ripped from Youtube, or the sounds effects and images taken from other games.

But, whatever, I can let all this go, modding isn’t some sort of noble endeavour; I don’t care if you ripped all your models from Halo 2, and all your skins from Halo 1.

No, what bothers me the most has nothing to do with the individual mods at Danman Games, indeed I even did some work for Sins of the Prophets before you “banned” me.

What I find so insulting is that you have absolutely no restraint when it comes to your shameless requests for donations and constantly branding yourself as “a game company of modders and gamers”. Redundancy and grammar aside, you should probably decide if you’re a group of pals working on mods together or some sort of company that does mods or something because it seems to me you’re failing at both.

If you seriously want to be a “company of modders and gamers” then maybe you should reconsider your self-proclaimed policy of “releasing when people want it, not when it’s done.”
If you’re going to put donation links on every page, and charge people for membership, there should probably be some guarantee that what their getting isn’t a pile of crap. And if paying money to download programs like Filezilla, (available elsewhere for free and on a faster server by the way) is optional, then you had better make sure your free service works all the god damn time as well.

But what really tops it all for me, what really makes it all worth it is the comedy value. Danman in particular I can’t even quantify into terms. I mean, I have never seen anyone mention his own name so many times. At what point do you just decide to stop and go “yeah, we have enough BY DANMANs on this texture.” My favourite was the loading screen on 7DS. The loading screen picture was a giant thing saying “By Danman Games (Danman3172), and the actual loading bar itself had a “By Danman” pasted onto it as well. I’ve known people who have been that self-absorbed, but at least they were really good at texturing!

Does Danman actually do anything anymore? It seems to me he just drops by every now and then to take Danman Games in a “dramatic new direction” by setting up a twitter feed or something. Thank Christ I follow DanmanGames on twitter, how else would I figure out he favorited “Tazmania Freestlye Vol. 1. Or maybe he’s “partnered” with some new MMO company, which results in nothing more than adding a new page on your website full of nothing but ads.

I must confess I am something of an addict; I just can’t stop looking at the Hindenburg that is DanmanGames. There’s just so much more I could mention, but I think I covered the main points.

TLDR: Either stop calling yourself a “company  of modders and gamers” and begging for money or do something worthy of donations.

If you don't wish that people know your first name ( and your last name along with your location ), simply don't post it everywhere on the internet...

And it is a simple google search who have allow me to find that you and Swissknight was comrade... that he have use somebody else for make his personal war is something very low... acting like a coward...

well if i've learned anything from danman games incorporated llc - and i've learned a lot, including the addresses of everyone involved in the development of the blockbuster Wii title "Imagine Party Babyz", thanks to the handy people search function - it's that the existence of more than one person disagreeing with me must be because of the megalomaniacal bent of whoever appears to be in charge and not several distinct people. so here's a third opinion (trust me i am a doctor) (i am not really a doctor)

i find that the most pertinent analogy is that your mod is like a chinese electronics recycling pit in which small children burn heaps of garbage over wood stoves for trace metals, except with the caveat that those small children actually get paid a few cents an hour. eventually the toxic, acrid byproduct ends up bioaccumulating in everybody's bodies, leaving them with an untreatable brain tumor that compels them to pass things like this off as ready for consumption by their adoring fans:

(stunning angles on these by the way the interface on the last two is a nice touch. have you tried downloading irfanview from our premium download servers to crop these 1024x768 images?)

simply ignoring these things would be, at the very least, a disservice to humor. these things happen rarely in our lifetimes, like halley's comet, or getting laid. please email me (or tweet at me @StarWarsWeedFan1996) when you have added an anime faction to 7ds and i will make a detailed reassessment but for now i am gripped with the inescapable conclusion that dukka is right about everything

Not a problem... you have the right to write what you wish/think until it is not in the goal to start a flame war...

And yes, not everything is perfect in the 7DS mod... problem is that people who judge in a negative way use for reference 7DS 2.1 who was released almost 2 year ago... since, a lot of work was made and soon 2.5 will be in beta phase ( maybe a public one )... anyway, 2.5 is not the final product since a lot of thing will not yet be included and is planned for 3.0...

It was a choice to release WIP mod... maybe it can seem wrong but i have a question for the usual player... will you have continue to play sins as today if all mod was never released until they was perfect? I think that until now, there is no one mod in a full finished state... mod team always work on them... maybe these WIP release are not perfect but they have allow several player to continue use sins of solar empire... what will be the interest to wait year for release a mod when all the player are away?

Now, there is a lot of thing who happen in hidden section of the Danmangame forum... one of the biggest problem is the lack of communication who make look like nothing is done for these mod...

SwissKnight, DukkaSSP

I don't care what your past problems with Dan are, this is a thread about our mod.  Start another thread bagging us and dont' hijack our thread to carry out your internet flamewar against us.  You have been reported to the powers that be, now go back to whatever mod you have because we've done the same.

Moderators, please sanitize our thread of their posts.  I am sure they can repost all the material in their own thread titled "Why I got banned from DanmanGames and now hate 7DS".  Thanks, Cheers!

DukkaSSP, we don't pollute your mod topic with insane trolling post...

If you wish to continue, we will allow you to make it at http://danmangames.com/forums/index.php?topic=2399.0 where SwissKnight have already make a copy of his last post... yes, you have your own trolling topic on our own forum...

Now that i think about it :

If you’re going to put donation links on every page, and charge people for membership, there should probably be some guarantee that what their getting isn’t a pile of crap.

I think that until now, nobody was charged for membership... that donation is near zero... that in fact, we have donate to the danmangame members... by example, the type of "pile of crap" that we have donate was numerous ( around 25 now ) free version of Entrenchment ( free for the members but pay by Danmangame partner via the Stardock gift system )...

And since it seem that you can't read, i will repeat it... the pay membership will not be for the mod but for a faster download... it will work in a similar way that rapidshare or any other similar online storage place who have gold or platinum membership for faster download...

If you take issue with another modder's policies or actions, take it up in private or (in the event of unauthorized content usage) with the hosts and rights-holders. If you just don't like the work done for whatever reason, there's no need to comment, nor anything to be gained by trolling about it.

Have already reply to this in one of your numerous identical post on the Danmangame forum... please, stop to spam identical post everywhere !!!

So, you can't get this mod unless you pay for it?