we are actually finalizing what we can and touching up a few things. i do expect to release a patch or two after the release as needed to fix any issues.

Guys if there are any balancing bugs with 0.03a post them here. Not on the release topic.

We already know about the pirate crash issue, and other issues.We are working as i type to fix those.

We just need to know what you think of Shimmers balancing

I have fixed the pirate faction crash issue, but it required me redoing the pirates from scratch. I am just waiting on shimmer to send him the files for a final look over then we can release the hotfix.

Hey guys awesome balancing job. At first when I saw the damage on some of the ships (Sovereign comes to mind) I thought no way. It actually doesn't take a whole lot to take them out though. They can stand up to other ships like they should be able to, but you can still outgun them without too large a fleet. So all in all, awesome job and an enjoyable mod.

The readme says no special abilities in this version.  They will come out in 0.04 I believe.  The ones that are in there now are just temporary.

Really like the mod, played it through several times and have a few comments to make besides the really liking it part.

Feels like capital ships die too fast.  Frigates and small ships to die fast ok, they're frigates, that's just par for the course, but for a battle cruiser or battleship to die in seconds is less so.

I sort of wonder about the Lakota varriant Excellsior too.  I like the Excellsior design, but with only 15 slots total, two for Excellsior class ships seems a bit odd.  I know it figured prominently in a DS9 ep, but I still can't shake the feeling that there could have been a different model in that slot and Lakota upgrades could be an ability you'd get with more levels (assuming an Excellsior was kept as a cap ship) or just buff all Excellsiors a bit and keep it as a regular ship and then something else could be added to that free slot, a Cheyanne or New Orleans or Niagra or Springfield maybe?

Also, am I an idiot or is the Constitution class ship not able to put crews on resource extractors around gas giants and such?  I thought colony ships generally could do that?

hi, i just installed the .03a1 fix and im having a few issues with it, namely it seems both the weapon effect/dialogue sounds for both races dont work now. Also another thing i noticed is that the starting frigate factory yard at the start has disappeared which is no big deal to me, i was just curious if this was intended or not. I reinstalled the .03a file thats without the fix to make sure i didnt install the .03a1 file incorrectly, and it the weapon/dialogue sounds work fine, just curious as to wether my install was flawed somehow or if this is something that has to do with the .03a1 fix file, thx

Ok thank you for point this out. We are batting 1000 with this update :/ This update is missing files as well. 0.03a2 will be up soon after we go through it with a fine tooth comb to make sure nothing is missing.

Major Stress:

First, I want to say how great the mod is and how grateful my friends and I are for you and others taking the time to put this together. I realize it required a great deal of time and effort. It shows. We have spent many hours playing this mod and have more fun with this than vanilla sins. And some of my friends don't even like Star Trek. Thank you.

Here are my (and my friends') two cents: We like the battles being faster than vanilla sins because those battles are ridiculous how long they are. For example, it just looks silly for a cap ship to be pounding away at a light frigate one-on-one for a minute or so. However, in the mod the battles may be a little (just a little) too fast. I found myself not even bothering to zoom in for the battles many times because I felt they would be over before I could really implement any tactics. Also, I realize that cap ships are not suppose to be overwhelmingly strong, but i find myself not wanting to bother wasting the money on a ship that will be targeted and destroyed in the first 20 seconds in the battle. I am not sure if there is any way to balance that out, but that's my observation.

A sidenote: I hope there are not tons of special abilities. Some would be apprioprate, but what I didn't like about Star Trek Armada (among many things) is that they had so many crazy abilities that were far away from anything seen in the show. I am not one of these hardcore canon adheriants, but I think you have to stick to the source material to a certain degree or it be a Star Trek. Rather, a new universe with Star Trek skins.  

Again, just my two cents. Please don't take them as complaints or me being negative. As I said, I really enjoyed the mod. I am just trying to be helpful. Hopefully you find them useful.

thanks for the input, i'm actually working on the phase 4 part of the balancing already that will address this issue. Cap's should last alittle longer in battles but not be the driving force behind them. There was a post i made where i mentioned cruisers would be your main driving force becuase they have good defense, offense, and speed. Now that i have seen alots on input and some have pointed out a few mistakes, i can streamline the balance much better. its going to be a give and take, i'm just hoping you will all be alittle patient and give feedback, i'll take that and update it.

Hi, first just want to say thanks, this really is a great mod and look forward to future updates.

Now, I seem to have a problem with ship weapon sounds and voices with 0.03a1, they worked with 0.03a but after deleting it and copying over 0.03a1 they no longer work. Using version 1.12

My initial feedback after playing a couple of quick half-games as the Feds:

1: Everything looks and sounds outstanding! (Though I agree that it does sound a lot like "all hands on sanctions.") Wonderful work, guys.

2: I agree that battles are too quick - though in my personal opinon, far too quick. A small fleet of an Excelsior, a Miranda, and a Constellation were able to destroy nearly any Klingon ship (except a cap) that jumped into their system in about five seconds. While explosions look great, I'd like to delay that gratification a little longer...as it is, there's no point to retreating, 'cause you'll never make it out of the system. I'd reduce firepower across the board by as much as 50% to be more in line with the fiction.

3: There are FAR too many torpedoes in play - it seems like even the slower-firing ships have launched a second torpedo before the first one has reached its target. It makes things look a little messy, and the sound effects are playing constantly.

4: How come the Centaur is so underpowered compared to the Miranda? It's based on the Excelsior rather than the Constitution hull, so you'd think it would be more powerful. As it is, it's so weak it's almost completely useless.